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Subject: Re: tell me why this would not be accurate--4000 mhz tiger vs 1500 mhz tiger

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:26:24 06/08/01

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On June 08, 2001 at 02:19:30, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>Mr. Burcham,
>
>Good idea but Ed Schroder did this with his Rebel programs about one year ago.
>It would certainly give a hint at the playing strength on faster machines.  This
>sort of testing would be tedious but informative.  Don't get too scientific on
>us K.
>
>
>I think that with increasing depth the return on investment diminishes.  Just
>consider how Kasparov punished Deep Blue.  DB was doing a whale of a lot more
>computations than a puny 4000 Mhz AMD processor.  Knowledge is the key.  We need
>faster machines in order to access the enormous databases of rules and
>exceptions to the rule.
>
>Tim Frohlick

Kasparov didn't "punish" deep blue.  Unless you mean he beat the hell out of
DB's fist using his face.  :)



>
>On June 07, 2001 at 21:11:15, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>maybe the 4 gig amd processors will be out in two years, maybe even next year.
>>so i was wondering how accurate it would be to test this now.
>>
>>lets say we know that tiger can average 400 kns with a 1500 mhz amd.
>>so lets set the clock to four minutes per move.
>>this will convert to 96,000,000 nodes in four minutes.
>>this is with permanent brain off.
>>
>>lets say we estimate the 4000 mhz processor to get about 1100 kns with
>>tiger. this will convert to 264,000,000 nodes in four minutes.
>>
>>so the idea is to see what the 4 gig will do against the 1.5 gig, if we had the
>>timer set to four minutes per move, permanent brain off.
>>
>>so based on the above figures we could take two seperate 1.5 gig pcs,
>>play tiger against tiger with all settings equal, except for time control.
>>
>>on 1500 mhz computer #1 we will set the time per move to 4 minutes.
>>
>>on 1500 mhz computer #2 we will set the time per move to 11 minutes.
>>
>>now we have 1500 mhz computer #1 getting 96,000,000 nodes per move.
>>
>>now we have 1500 mhz computer #2 getting 264,000,000 nodes per move.
>>
>>
>>this type of test opens up several questions for me.
>>
>>
>>please dont tell me how the next generation of processors will be 500 megagig
>>current pulses traveling in the water of a desktop fishbowl.
>>and how our ram will hang from the ceiling in huge grids.
>>
>>please dont tell me how the software changes every six monthes.
>>please dont tell me how the hardware changes every three monthes.
>>
>>
>>the above discribed test is based on the hardware as we view it by todays
>>standards.
>>
>>
>>
>>please comment.
>>
>>thanks



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