Author: Harald Faber
Date: 23:38:54 06/08/01
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On June 08, 2001 at 18:04:52, Rajen Gupta wrote: >On June 08, 2001 at 10:44:29, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On June 07, 2001 at 11:35:16, Rajen Gupta wrote: >> >>>On June 07, 2001 at 09:53:24, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>Clear win for Tiger, no chance for the oldie. 7.5-2.5 in favour of Tiger. Even >>>>booklines up to 30 moves (10th game) didn't help...games, as always, at >>>>www.geocities.comHarald1312/HaraldFaberE.html. >>> >>>hi hrald: how are you coducting this match-on 2 computers/ and what opening >>>books are you usinig? >> >>I am using the according opening books, that means the normal ct.tbk for Tiger >>14 and the tournament book is activated in MChessPro 8. >> >>>i am running a match on a single celeron 900, eng vs eng, 64 mb hash tables >>>each; 90min/60 moves; both programmes using an individual copy of the chessbase >>>tiger book. currently chessbasetiger14 vs junior5 w=10; l=7 d=10. at 20 games >>>both were running equal with w=6, l=6 d=8. i'm not sure if the latest progs are >>>that much stronger if the oldies can play of the same opening books. >>> >>>rajen >> >>Don't forget that many opening books are adjusted to the engine, so testing with >>only one book to which all programs have access just lets you test this book. If >>you want to check a program, you have to use the given opening book. That is why >>I am not very lucky about the fact that the Chessbase Tiger does not have the >>Noomen-opening book. I am sure that Tiger is strong enough to play well with >>this opening book too, but I am not sure if the results would be better with the >>Noomen-book. > >i'm using the tiger book for both programmes and the engines are running in the >tiger interface. (so no excuses for the tiger)assuming that the chessbase tiger >book is not optimised for tiger(which i doubt very much-in my opinion the >chessbase book is at least as good as the noomen book,if not better)it certainly >is not optimised for junior 5. i initially thought of using the junior5 book for >both programmes but then there would be the excuse that tiger is using an >un-optimised book. the fact that as of today the score is tiger w=14;l=11; d=15 >shows that there is very little to separate tired old junior5 from the so called >'monster" chesstiger. > i am a firm believer in the theory that 99% of the so-called improvement in >newer programmes comes from the opening book and that basically any good opening >book consisting of high level gm games will equally suit all programmes > >rajen Maybe Junior profits from the good Tiger book? :-) Uri already wrote it, you forget another point: You are playing on one machine. That is different from what I am doing. And it is not clear that in a long run the difference becomes much more evident than after 10 or 20 games.
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