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Subject: Re: To Bob, probably Crafty has an interesting problem

Author: Ferdinand S. Mosca

Date: 02:09:57 06/09/01

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On June 08, 2001 at 11:16:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 08, 2001 at 01:53:58, Ferdinand S. Mosca wrote:
>
>>
>>Hello Bob,
>>
>>I have been examining games on my tournament among winboard engines
>>and found this position which Crafty should have not played.
>>
>>Comet B.33 - Crafty 18.9
>>[D]8/8/1n6/2b2B2/5B1k/3p4/5P2/5K2 b - - 0 62
>>Here Crafty played 62...Bxf2?? with an evaluation of 0.0
>>on P3 668mhz.
>>
>>My Nalimov EGTB which is from Hiarcs 7.32 CD
>>does not include KBBKN, which I think not even related
>>here because it is clear that the two bishops
>>will win against a knight.
>
>Sorry, but 2B's don't always win against a knight.  If you take the
>position after Bxf2 Kxf2, and remove the final pawn, this is a dead
>drawn tablebase ending.  The KBBKN tablebase will show this pretty
>easily.

Hi Bob,

Normally 2B's will often win against a knight and 2B's normally will not win
against 1B. BTW according to Jeremiah, from other post, Bxf2 is mate in 44
moves.

I guess the current version of Crafty running without complete 5-man EGTB is
weak at minor piece ending. Not enough, when both sides have rooks and Crafty is
slightly inferior, it will exhange rooks and goes for an inferior minor piece
ending which it thought a complete drawish. Interesting to look at the databases
now. Testing with position set up is also very nice.

Maybe it's time to increase the disk space too!!

Regards,
Dinan

>
>
>
>>
>>I disabled the EGTB and still Crafty likes to play
>>Bxf2. I have tried the Chessbase Crafty 18.08 with the same result.
>>
>>Maybe someone will verify this on their unit.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dinan



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