Author: odell hall
Date: 23:55:54 06/09/01
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On June 10, 2001 at 02:52:50, Slater Wold wrote: >On June 10, 2001 at 02:14:50, odell hall wrote: > >>On June 09, 2001 at 23:56:07, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>No. I don't think so. It was only 2 games, and not even tournament length >>>games at that. >>> >>>When I saw how easily Petr defeated Deep Shredder, I was amazed. He was >>>kibitz'ing most of the game. Like he didn't even have to concentrate. >>> >>>Remember, he said that Deep Shredder performance was approx. 2100-2200 FIDE in >>>the game against him? (Which it played 100x worse against him, I agree.) Guess >>>what Petr said about these games? >>> >>>Thoughts on ending of game 1: >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: it's very difficult for human to play positions with >>>compensations for a pawn >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: may be just white has no sufficient compensation :) >>>Project played like Machine :)) >>> >>>Game 2: >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: 4...Bxc3? >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: I beat Jrlok never play Bxc3 vs human GM :) >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: please think about it :) >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) kibitzes: comp played opening like patzer again >>> >>>And about the series: >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) tells you: hmm, comp played like 2200 in the closed position and >>>like 2600 in open :) It's hard to evaluate his strength >>> >>>Petrovich(GM) tells you: so, 2200+2600 / 2 = 2400 :) lol >>> >>> >>> >>>Petr and I just went over quickly the games. These are not annotated or >>>anything, just general conversation on the games. >>> >>>Also, please be aware that when I played Petr, I did _NOT_ prepare at all. I >>>asked him for a game, and we played. Having been singled out by JRLOK, I >>>prepared an better book. This time when I played JRLOK, there was no in & out >>>of book problems. >>> >>>Shredder played a much better game this time around, than last. However, I am >>>not ready to say that Shredder is GM strength. Like Robert said, to be 2600 you >>>have to play like a 2600 every game. Not 2100 here and 2700 here. 2600 ALL THE >>>TIME. >>> >>>I am planning more and more GM vs Shredder games. Perhaps at the end of this >>>year, we can make a FAIR guess at Deep Shredder's ELO. >>> >>> >>>Slate >> >> >> Well if what he said is true, a 2100-22000 just beat roman , one of the >>strongest grandmasters in computer chess around, and that is impressive. > >NO NO NO! He rated my performance against HIM as being about 2100-2200! Just >_ONE_ game! > >There's NO doubt Deep Shredder is stronger, it just had a "bad game." > > >Slate Yep just like many humans, i was surprised though that jrlok lost, since he knows computer chess so well, i expected a win.
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