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Subject: Re: Why the current interest in Man vs. Machine battles??

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 01:59:46 06/10/01

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On June 10, 2001 at 02:26:30, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 09, 2001 at 23:43:14, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 2001 at 23:16:54, Chris Kantack wrote:
>>
>>>Perhaps I'm missing something....(hence, this post).  I'm wondering what all the
>>>excitement is regarding Kramnik vs. Deep Fritz or any other similar match going
>>>on (with Grandmasters) this year.
>>>
>>>As I recall, the 2nd Deep Blue match that IBM had with Garry Kasparov was a very
>>>specialized machine with many processors especially made to process chess
>>>positions.   I've heard several times where (the 2nd version) of Deep Blue was
>>>able to calculate 200 million positions per second.
>>>
>>>Now, I've recently read where Deep Fritz (in its recent match against Deep
>>>Junior) was able to calculate (only) 1 million positions per second.
>>>
>>>So now, this autumn, we're to see a match between Kramnik and a computer with a
>>>"chess computational" speed of only 1/200 of what Garry faced in 1997.
>>>
>>>So...like, what's the big deal?    Should be an easy win for Kramnik.
>>>(Especially easy as he'll have the program in advance to play with to his
>>>hearts' content.)
>>>
>>>Chris Kantack
>>>http://home.earthlink.net/~kantack/lcdchess/home.htm
>>
>>This is part of what bothers me about the DB match.  People think that chess on
>>any other platform is necessarily boring, because of course, DB has solved
>>chess, or is at least miles ahead of everything else.
>>
>>Independent of whether it is miles ahead of everything else, it's sick that they
>>created this situation and then they *won't play*.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>
>...And if the Kramnik match had been designed to correct this and reignite
>interest in computer chess...?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

How important is the public's or Chess player's perceptions of computer Chess
when little's being done to move it along and promote it?

Most events along these lines lack the sense of impact that the DP/Kasp match
had, but so what, it was an event, time to move on and do something different.
This might be a good decade for GM/program matches, who knows.

But what they can't have happen is like with Woodstock, they have these clowns
comeing along every few years and promoting another "Woodstock"  ???  What's the
point of that?  Why would they do such a thing?  Can't be for nastalgia because
the things are packed with kids that weren't even born till several years AFTER
the original one happen.

Same thing with GM/computer matches IMO, they have to move on and not do this
type of thing in the shadow of DB, because THAT's over with now.

Pete



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