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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating list

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 19:50:01 06/12/01

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On June 12, 2001 at 20:54:16, stuart taylor wrote:

>On June 12, 2001 at 18:41:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On June 12, 2001 at 14:48:10, Thoralf Karlsson wrote:
>>
>>>  THE SSDF RATING LIST 2001-06-11   79042 games played by  219 computers
>>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>   1 Deep Fritz  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2653   29   -28   647   64%  2551
>>>   2 Gambit Tiger 2.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz    2650   43   -40   302   67%  2528
>>>   3 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2632   43   -40   308   67%  2508
>>>   4 Fritz 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2623   23   -23   968   64%  2520
>>>   5 Junior 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2596   20   -20  1230   62%  2509
>>>   6 Chess Tiger 12.0 DOS 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2576   26   -26   733   61%  2499
>>>   7 Fritz 5.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2551   25   -25   804   58%  2496
>>>   8 Nimzo 7.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2550   24   -23   897   58%  2491
>>>   9 Nimzo 8.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz           2542   28   -28   612   54%  2511
>>>  10 Junior 5.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2534   25   -25   790   58%  2478
>>
>>
>>
>>Congratulations to Frans Morsch and Mathias Feist (and the ChessBase team).
>>
>>Deep Fritz is definitely a very tough client. You cannot lead the SSDF list by
>>accident, and leading it for so many years in a row is probably the best
>>achievement of a chess program of all times.
>>
>>If you want to sum up the history of chess programs for microcomputers, I think
>>you just need to remember 3 names:
>>* Richard Lang
>>* Frans Morsch and Mathias Feist
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>The roarng absence of the name Christophe, appears of course, in the signature
>of the post.
>But I have a little question. Does Deep Fritz have any advantage in the testing
>e.g. the fact that it already stood at the top, long before the recent GT even
>arrived on the scene, and so may have had an advantageous starting point?
>S.Taylor

Hello Stuart,
I believe that is a valid question.  I would like to know the answer.  I would
like to know if the SSDF "Zeros out" the book learning of say Deep Fritz before
starting a match with Gambit Tiger when Gambit Tiger is brand new?  I still
think the SSDF list is quesionable because of the differences in opponents each
program has to face.  I'm sure it's better than nothing but I sure wouldn't like
to hang my hat on a 3 point difference in SSDF ratings (or even 20 points for
that matter).
Jim



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