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Subject: Re: I plan to settle this.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 19:52:22 06/12/01

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On June 12, 2001 at 22:18:31, Slater Wold wrote:

>I am not sure about the other CCC readers, but the recent "Are computers GM
>strength?" has gotten me curious.  Are they?  One would think.  But then you see
>a computer play a bad game, and think, "HA!  A 2100 COULD PLAY BETTER THAN
>THAT!"
>
>So let's finalize this.  In a full rules, simulated FIDE event.  I am talking
>about the 4 top programs vs 4 2500+ GM's.  Swiss tournament, standard time
>controls.  All the good stuff.  Simulate ratings, and get a decent GUESS at
>what, in this tournament, the computers would achieve.
>
>I would rather a 3 round swiss tournament @ 120/0.  3 games against a GM is a
>good gathering of performance.  12 games.  See how the computers do.
>
>The summer is arriving, and a lot of GM's will be playing a lot of tournaments
>soon.  If you'd like to help, please contact me.  If you can help, PLEASE
>contact me.  If you want to tell me what a worthless waste of time this is,
>DON'T CONTACT ME!  NOT EVEN ON THE CCC BOARD!  I don't think anyone wants to
>hear it.
>
>I doubt ANYONE could argue the point of a 3 round swiss.  If the computers walk
>away undefeated, then we'll know.  It could be close, it could be a killing.
>
>If ANYONE has a better idea.  PLEASE SPEAK NOW!

I think it is a good idea, but I don't think it settles anything.

Joe is a boxer.  Joe goes undefeated in 12 fights.  Then, in fight 13, the first
time he really gets pasted in the jaw, we discover Joe has a glass jaw.  How
will Joe fare in his next 12 bouts?

Fred is a boxer.  Fred wins 12 bouts in a row.  In the 13th bout, Fred gets
hammered every time his opponent uses an uppercut.  How will Fred fare in the
next 13 bouts?

On the other hand, if Kramnik gets handed his hat after careful preparation, I
think that will be very interesting.  Not conclusive of course, but it would
definitely alter the way that I think about computer chess engines.



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