Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 04:04:07 06/13/01
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On June 13, 2001 at 05:35:30, stuart taylor wrote: >On June 13, 2001 at 05:05:45, Marcus Kaestner wrote: > >> >>> >>>It is the most reliable tool that we have to evaluate the chess programs. The >>>difference in the opponents each program has to face does not matter from a >>>mathematical point of view. >> >>i think you are wrong! >> >>having now over two years of experience with my own chessbits-lists, i can say >>to you that it is VERY easy to place a program with a HIGHLY overrated (or >>underrated) position into the list. >> >>there are dozens of possibilities to fake a rating. >> >>i do not say that the ssdf fakes, i only say that it DOES matter which opponents >>you choose. >> >>marcus > >Of course it does! >If you play a 1200 elo rated player you can be sure to win 100% of times, and >you play 100,000 games, you will have got a rating of 3000 long long before >then. The opposite is true. When 2 payers with a huge difference in ELO play, the stronger player can only loose ELO points. In case he gets 100%, his rating remains constant, otherwise it goes down. Uli > When I used to play vs. Hiarcs 6 and 7 and get my play rated, I always got one >point for winning against the instant level, which was sooooo easy. If I needed >to do it for a very important reason, I could be sure to get a 3000 elo rating >that way, but if I were plaing against its 2 min. per 60 moves, I would never >even reach anywhere near what my true rating would be-between about 2200-2300 >elo. >(though if "instant" means that the human must also play instant, then of >course there's no hope for any human).One minute per game would be like a human >"instant", if not two minutes. >S.Taylor
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