Author: Tapio Huuhka
Date: 09:19:55 06/13/01
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On June 13, 2001 at 05:49:32, Terry McCracken wrote: >On June 13, 2001 at 03:42:41, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On June 12, 2001 at 23:56:26, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>Many IM's and GM's have felt the teeth of these and many other programs like >>>Fritz, Junior, Tiger etc. >>> >>>However, it's true they lose to much lower rated players, even to me >>>sometimes!;) > >That was a little wry humor, nothing more. I'ts not my fault you can't >appreciate it! >> >>Humans have a hard time coping with this. Really? I think it's you not >the GM's! >> >>A human who plays chess is an apple. A computer that plays chess is not an >>orange, but it's not quite an apple, either. You can compare them, but not >>perfectly. >As if I didn't know the difference? The arrogance! >> >>A ludicrous example: Compare an unarmed human with a tank. A tank can blow up >>a house at a range of over a kilometer, and can survive machine gun fire, >>whereas an unarmed human cannot blow up a house at a range of even one meter, >>and would fare badly against machine gun bullets. >> >>On the other hand, there are ditches that a tank cannot get out of, while a >>human might have an easy time with these ditches. >> >>You can't deny the tank its strengths just because there's a ditch a human can >>handle better. >> >>End of ludicrous example. Computers are getting better at being uniformly >>strong, but they are not now, and will probably never be, perfect human analogs. >> There will always be the possibility that a weak human player can say "duh" to >>one of these machines -- sometimes. > >How do you know that? Today I agree, fifty years from now A.I. may be born and a >"computer" for a lack of a better term will be irrepressible! >> >>bruce > >They only thing *Ludicrous* Bruce is your rude and ignorant reply! >I can beat these machines far more than you can imagine, and I'm _not_ a >_weak_ player! >And why did you snip my post? > >I was bieng humorous with last sentence that you included in your >reply! > >I've beaten some very strong players, _not_ just programms. >I don't care to be compared as a *frail* human in regards to chess and GM's as >*tanks* Mr. Moreland! > >By snipping my post, you missed my point entirely! > >I don't belittle your favorite "pet" , so please do not belittle me and my >playing strength relative to GM's! > >Terry I hope you have calmed down by now.:) Maybe I'm missing something, but I found Bruce's post just interesting, not insulting. I'm curious about your playing strength, because I couldn't find you on the FIDE list. So, what do you think is the playing strength of _not_ a weak player? :) Tapio
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