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Subject: Re: Tablebases and tablebase depth (Dr. Hyatt)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:46:08 06/14/01

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On June 13, 2001 at 23:49:05, John Dahlem wrote:

>On June 13, 2001 at 22:53:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 2001 at 21:56:12, John Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>"I run raid here on several machines.  I don't find it to be any faster at all,
>>>>for normal cases (raid is definitely slower in writing).  The speed of the disk
>>>>is not as much a problem as the speed of the PCI bus the data has to move over.
>>>>I don't see how you can get 2x the performance with any raid (raid0 or raid5)."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>When you say in normal cases, are you speaking of chess, or in general? If it
>>>isn't faster at all in most cases, what is the point of getting 2 hard drives?
>>>I ask because in a computer I am looking at you can get them for about 2-300
>>>dollars more, and I too thought they were about twice as fast as one HD.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>
>>Two hard drives can be good at times.  IE put the system on one drive, your
>>tablebases on the other.  Then seeks to the system stuff won't move the read
>>write heads away from the data you are accessing.
>>
>>raid 5 was really designed for fail-safe data storage.  raid 0 (striping) can
>>be faster, but really only if you have a lot of memory bandwidth to access the
>>data in memory quick enough.  I haven't seen any cases where raid is
>>significantly faster on the PC platforms I have tested.  The hot-swap stuff is
>>nice for replacing a failed drive, and hot spares are even cuter, of course.
>
>
>Hmm, this computer had 768 megs RAM, which is a lot for PCs, but I don't know if
>that is what you mean by a lot or not.  When you say it doesn't really benefit
>though, are you talking about only in chess or in all applications? Basically,
>is raid-0 (or seperate HDs) worth anywhere near $200 in your opinion?

memory bandwidth has nothing to do with the _amount_ of RAM you have.

raid0 is "ok" on a PC.  Nothing more in any I have seen.  Is this EIDE raid
or SCSI or software?



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