Author: Mark Young
Date: 05:47:23 06/14/01
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On June 13, 2001 at 22:59:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 13, 2001 at 22:12:59, Mark Young wrote: > >>On June 13, 2001 at 21:46:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On June 13, 2001 at 14:54:52, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>What the hell are you talking about... I never said that. When Did I ever say >>>>ratings were """"""""ABSOLUTE""""""""""". I said you can calculate ratings for >>>>past players....and Ratings is the only measure we use in chess. I NEVER said >>>>RATINGS are ABSOLUTE.... Ratings are calculated for that pool of players, If you >>>>think the rankings are incorrect you better take a look at the past list because >>>>you will find what history tell us were the strongest players of the day are >>>>also RANKED #1 on the repective lists. The Rating numbers themselve don't mean >>>>anything 2700,2800,2900 etc. What matters is the point spread from one player to >>>>the next. Don't put words in my mouth and then tell me I don' >>>>t understand. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Then why did you publish the "approximated Elo list" below? That implies >>>that you can take ratings from today, compute ratings for players active 20 >>>years ago, then take those ratings, and back up another 20 years, and repeat >>>the above, until you go back far enough to compute one of these whacko ratings >>>for the player that is under discussion. >> >>Your Wrong I did not implie that at all and you know it. If you look on what I >>posted it has a header "About these ratings" It tell how the ratings were made >>and what they mean at the site I posted....Did you take the time to >>look.........NO! That is your fault not mine that you are lazy if your arguement >>is you just don't understand what was posted. Typical Bob Hyatt tactics....:) >>Make up something I did not say and try to use it against me. :) > >I tried to be polite. That seems beyond your capability however, so, to >keep it succinct: > > buzz off... Why? It was your abuse....I only pointed it out and called your tactics. Nothing new for you. I will keep posting, you do what you wish. > > > >> >> >> >>> >>>Publishing a rating list that spans 200 years implies the ratings are >>>absolute. Otherwise the numbers are meaningless. Which they actually are. >>> >>>If I misunderstand what you provided below, then accept my apology for >>>interpreting it incorrectly... >>> >>> >>>>>>Below are the ratings of the top players in 1930 as an example. >>>>>> >>>>>>Chessmetrics Ratings: January 1st, 1930 >>>>>>About these ratings >>>>>> >>>>>>Rank >>>>>> Player Rating Age >>>>>>1 Alekhine, Alexander 2749 37 >>>>>>2 Lasker, Emanuel 2732 61 >>>>>>3 Capablanca, Jose 2700 41 >>>>>>4 Vidmar, Milan (Sr.) 2673 44 >>>>>>5 Nimzowitsch, Aaron 2669 43 >>>>>>6 Bogoljubow, Efim 2646 30 >>>>>>7 Spielmann, Rudolf 2621 46 >>>>>>8 Rubinstein, Akiba 2620 47 >>>>>>9 Torre, Carlos 2603 24 >>>>>>10 Euwe, Max 2601 28 >>>>>>11 Tartakower, Saviely 2589 42 >>>>>>12 Maroczy, Geza 2588 59 >>>>>>13 Gruenfeld, Ernst 2578 36 >>>>>>14 Levenfish, Grigory 2565 40 >>>>>>15 Marshall, Frank 2557 52 >>>>>>16 Becker, Albert 2554 33 >>>>>>17 Verlinsky, Boris 2550 41 >>>>>>18 Kostic, Boris 2548 42 >>>>>>19 Romanovsky, Peter 2544 37 >>>>>>20 Mattison, Hermanis 2541 35 >>>>>>21 Johner, Paul 2533 42 >>>>>>22 Rabinovich, Ilya 2533 38 >>>>>>23 Treybal, Karel 2524 44 >>>>>>24 Ahues, Carl 2523 46 >>>>>>25 Bohatirchuk, Fedor 2523 37 >>>>>>26 Saemisch, Friedrich 2523 33 >>>>>>27 Steiner, Lajos 2520 26 >>>>>>28 Asztalos, Lajos 2510 40 >>>>>>29 Vajda, Arpad 2508 33 >>>>>>30 Canal, Esteban 2507 33 >>>>>>31 Monticelli, Mario 2503 27 >>>>>>32 Przepiorka, David 2500 49 >>>>>>33 Takacs, Sandor 2494 36 >>>>>>34 Colle, Edgar 2491 32 >>>>>>35 Gilg, Karl 2484 28 >>>>>>36 Yates, Frederick 2483 45 >>>>>>37 Kmoch, Hans 2480 35 >>>>>>38 Opocensky, Karel 2476 37 >>>>>>39 Brinckmann, Alfred 2476 38 >>>>>>40 Von Holzhausen, Walter 2448 53 >>>>>>41 Thomas, George A. 2445 48 >>>>>>42 Michell, Reginald 2431 >>>>>>43 Vukovic, Vladimir 2426 31 >>>>>>44 Havasi, Kornel 2410 37 >>>>>>45 Rosselli, Stefano 2384 52 >>>>>>46 Menchik, Vera 2358 23 >>>>>>47 Prokes, Ladislav 2328 45
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