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Subject: Re: GT2 Athlon 1.3Ghz vs PIII 800 time to search depth

Author: Ed Panek

Date: 06:06:21 06/14/01

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On June 14, 2001 at 03:50:31, Tony Werten wrote:

>On June 14, 2001 at 03:14:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2001 at 02:55:02, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On June 13, 2001 at 11:49:35, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 13, 2001 at 11:00:11, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 12, 2001 at 20:44:58, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Athlon 1.3Ghz 192 MBhash tables..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>14:16:34.9	-0.50	25	-1715898192
>>>>>>07:27:40.6	-0.44	24	-344954985
>>>>>>00:00:31.9	-0.42	14	13011609
>>>>>>00:12:59.1	-0.36	20	339922649
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Same position PIII 800 48 MB HASH tables
>>>>>>
>>>>>>17:57:26.9	-0.44	24	-1100754853
>>>>>>00:00:45.8	-0.42	14	13392336
>>>>>>00:23:58.1	-0.36	20	436641487
>>>>>>Bigger difference than I thought
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is from the current Gt2 vs the web position
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Ed,
>>>>>I have no idea what your numbers above mean but it seems to me that if you want
>>>>>to compare processor speed you need to use the same amount of hash memory.  I
>>>>>can't get to the game to see what the position is like but if it's close to an
>>>>>endgame or deep into an endgame the hash tables can make a very big difference.
>>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Jim thanks for the reply..typically in computer chess the above means
>>>>
>>>>time-score-depth-nodes
>>>
>>>Then what does the - mean ?
>>
>>The last column does not mean number of nodes.
>>
>>It mean that value of an integer variable that is called nodes.
>>
>>This variable can get values between -2,147,483,648 and 2,147,483,647 and is
>>updated by the C commands nodes++;
>>
>>nodes++ does not mean always increasing the value of nodes by 1 and when
>>nodes=2,147,483,647 and you do nodes++ you get -2,147,483,648
>
>That makes the comparison quite useless.
>
>ie pos 2
>
>If the counter went around once then 2^32-344954985 positions are searched in
>26860 seconds wich means 147 Kn/s wich is too low in the endgame on 800Mhz. So
>it went round more than once. How often ? If normal speed is 800Kn/s it went
>around 6 times.
>
>On a 1.3 Ghz speed is different and so is the number of times the counter went
>around. I'd know how often, if I would now the speed, but that would make the
>test unnescessairy.
>
>Tony
>
>
>>
>>Uri

Is this type of data totally useless? How can I make it more meaningful?

Thanks in advance,

Ed



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