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Subject: Re: GT2 Athlon 1.3Ghz vs PIII 800 time to search depth

Author: Ed Panek

Date: 07:38:12 06/14/01

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On June 14, 2001 at 09:35:14, Tony Werten wrote:

>On June 14, 2001 at 09:06:21, Ed Panek wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2001 at 03:50:31, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2001 at 03:14:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 14, 2001 at 02:55:02, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 13, 2001 at 11:49:35, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 13, 2001 at 11:00:11, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 12, 2001 at 20:44:58, Ed Panek wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Athlon 1.3Ghz 192 MBhash tables..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>14:16:34.9	-0.50	25	-1715898192
>>>>>>>>07:27:40.6	-0.44	24	-344954985
>>>>>>>>00:00:31.9	-0.42	14	13011609
>>>>>>>>00:12:59.1	-0.36	20	339922649
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Same position PIII 800 48 MB HASH tables
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>17:57:26.9	-0.44	24	-1100754853
>>>>>>>>00:00:45.8	-0.42	14	13392336
>>>>>>>>00:23:58.1	-0.36	20	436641487
>>>>>>>>Bigger difference than I thought
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is from the current Gt2 vs the web position
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>I have no idea what your numbers above mean but it seems to me that if you want
>>>>>>>to compare processor speed you need to use the same amount of hash memory.  I
>>>>>>>can't get to the game to see what the position is like but if it's close to an
>>>>>>>endgame or deep into an endgame the hash tables can make a very big difference.
>>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jim thanks for the reply..typically in computer chess the above means
>>>>>>
>>>>>>time-score-depth-nodes
>>>>>
>>>>>Then what does the - mean ?
>>>>
>>>>The last column does not mean number of nodes.
>>>>
>>>>It mean that value of an integer variable that is called nodes.
>>>>
>>>>This variable can get values between -2,147,483,648 and 2,147,483,647 and is
>>>>updated by the C commands nodes++;
>>>>
>>>>nodes++ does not mean always increasing the value of nodes by 1 and when
>>>>nodes=2,147,483,647 and you do nodes++ you get -2,147,483,648
>>>
>>>That makes the comparison quite useless.
>>>
>>>ie pos 2
>>>
>>>If the counter went around once then 2^32-344954985 positions are searched in
>>>26860 seconds wich means 147 Kn/s wich is too low in the endgame on 800Mhz. So
>>>it went round more than once. How often ? If normal speed is 800Kn/s it went
>>>around 6 times.
>>>
>>>On a 1.3 Ghz speed is different and so is the number of times the counter went
>>>around. I'd know how often, if I would now the speed, but that would make the
>>>test unnescessairy.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>
>>Is this type of data totally useless? How can I make it more meaningful?
>
>If think the easiest way is changing 1 thing at a time. So processor or
>hashtablesize but not both. That way, the time to get to the solution (or
>plydepth) is more meaningfull.
>
>Tony
>
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Ed


Ok I will do a test like this soon..inm variious types of positions

Ed



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