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Subject: Re: Crafty in a GM tournament on Chess.Net

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 21:21:19 04/25/98

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On April 25, 1998 at 22:31:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>I posted this on r.g.c.c, and thought I'd also put it here for
>reference.
>
>Late this week, Roman called and asked if I'd be willing to let my
>"four-processor monster" (his words) play in a tournament on chess.net
>with him, GM Larry Christiansen and GM Yasser Sierawan.  The time
>control was a "Fischer-like" 10 10 (10 minutes on the clock, 10
>seconds added after each move.)
>
>We played 4 games today, the intent being that this ends up as a
>double-round-robin.  In rounds 1/2 Crafty played Roman, starting
>with white in round 1, which it won after playing a really nice
>endgame that a couple of IM's declared drawn even though Crafty
>was up material.  In round two, Roman tried his favorite computer-
>busting "London system" but things got *real* interesting.  He
>castled long (as white) after crafty castled king-side, and he
>unleashed the usual pawn-storm.  But rather than defending, Crafty
>chose to counter-attack on the queenside, and forced a perpetual as
>white had to accept or get mated...  after two games, 1.5/2.0 for
>Crafty.  Roman was obviously .5/2.0, Yasser was 1.5/2.0 vs Larry and
>Larry was tied with Roman at .5/2.0 of course.
>
>In rounds three and four, Crafty was paired against Larry.  As white,
>it attacked right from the get-go and basically beheaded him in nice
>style in a *really* unusual position (white castled long, black short,
>both started pawn-storming.  Crafty's storm had bigger clouds.  :))
>In round 4 Crafty was black, and won material but ended in a drawn
>position.
>
>After 4 rounds, Crafty has 3.0/4.0, Yasser has 3.0/4.0, Larry and
>Roman both have 1.0/4.0...  So either Crafty or Yasser will win the
>tournament, and the worst that could happen would be that one wins
>both games, and in the other match one of those wins both games,
>meaning either crafty or yasser will win, or do no worse than tied for
>second...
>
>Before you start the "but you said no computers could play GM-class
>chess"...  just remember that this is 10 10, which is something like
>game/30 except there is no sudden death to avoid...


Hi Bob,

Again, as I mentioned in a previous post, I think you over-rate the
time control advantage for computers.   I do not deny that computers
are better relative to humans at faster time controls, this is well
known.   But 10-10 is starting to get pretty comfortable for human
players.

If a computer is indeed in the same league as some given player at
10-10,  you should not expect to be completely outclassed at tournament
time controls.  The humans will certainly play MUCH stronger at 40/2 but
so will Crafty.  In my opinion the difference is not as HUGE as you
would have us believe.

- Don



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