Author: Côme
Date: 11:15:05 06/18/01
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On June 18, 2001 at 13:41:25, Mark Young wrote: >On June 18, 2001 at 12:42:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 18, 2001 at 08:21:54, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>Here in Finland we have 3 GMs. Here's from their ratings from fide: >>> >>>500011 Yrjola, Jouni g 2419 2 24.10.1959 >>>500020 Westerinen, Heikki M.J. g 2412 10 27.4.1944 >>>500038 Rantanen, Yrjo A. g 2327 0 23.4.1950 >>> >>>You can give computer a knight handicap to get interesting match... >>> >>>Jouni > >Quoted from Bob's post: > >"So picking a bunch of GMs with ratings of 2400 and then saying "hey, computers >are this good, so..." doesn't make much sense. Because at _some_ point in time, >those 2400 GM players were 2600+ GM players, otherwise they would not have >gotten the title..." > >You are Dead Wrong again Bob, we will take the 3 Grandmasters from the previous >post for example. Not one of these Grandmasters was ever close to 2600 elo and >in fact only one of these grandmasters was able to best 2500+ elo. As usual in >this argument your theory falls apart in the light of FACTS. Hello !! You forgot one important thing : They all had +2500 in intermediate elo ! the elo you give is the best rating published. They all made Gm norms (TPR +2600) and had +2500 betwenn 2 fide list. best regards Alexandre Come > > >Yrjola, Jouni GM >best elo 2515, 1984 > >Westerinen, Heikki M.J. GM >best elo 2485, 1976 > >Rantanen, Yrjo A. GM >best elo 2460, 1979 > > > > > > >> >> >>First, these titles are awarded when a specific set of criteria have been >>met. IE in the US, if you are a member of the USCF and play chess, your >>rating can fluctuate from class-c (1400-1600) to class-a (1800-2000) and >>your "title" changes as well. But once your rating hits 2200, you receive >>a "life master" title that never gets revoked. >> >>GM players are exactly the same. IE when I finished my PhD, I was awarded the >>title of "Dr.". I will keep that title for life, even if I reach a point where >>I can't remember 2+2. GMs are the same. They satisfied the strict criteria >>at some point. Then they get older and their chess skills decline. But the >>title is not dependent on their maintaining a 2500+ rating forever. It is >>very possible that there could exist a GM that could not win a class-B event >>at a USCF tournament. Age does strange things to the mind. >> >>So picking a bunch of GMs with ratings of 2400 and then saying "hey, computers >>are this good, so..." doesn't make much sense. Because at _some_ point in time, >>those 2400 GM players were 2600+ GM players, otherwise they would not have >>gotten the title...
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