Author: Albert Silver
Date: 11:54:06 06/18/01
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On June 18, 2001 at 14:29:54, odell hall wrote:
>On June 18, 2001 at 13:39:10, Albert Silver wrote:
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>>On June 18, 2001 at 08:31:43, Sune Larsson wrote:
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>>>On June 18, 2001 at 06:24:20, Chris Carson wrote:
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>>>>On June 18, 2001 at 01:45:46, Sune Larsson wrote:
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>>>>>On June 17, 2001 at 18:32:46, Pierre Bourget wrote:
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>>>>>>An interesting extract of an interview with GM Bareev on the Chessbase site with
>>>>>>his opinion on computer.
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>>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/magazine/cbm82/cbm82b.htm
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>>>>>GM Bareev: "Computers don't understand chess, but they are strong.
>>>>> Their traps and calculations are very good."
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>>>>>Question: "Would you play a match against a computer?"
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>>>>>GM Bareev: "If I'm dying."
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>>>>>Sune
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>>>>Question: How have computers changed chess at your level?
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>>>>Bareev: Well, we don't work at chess anymore. We just look at the stupid
>>>>computer, we follow the latest games and find small improvements. We have lost
>>>>depth.
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>>>>Q: When you work with computers do you ASK the computer to find ideas for you??
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>>>>Bareev: Always. The only thing I do. I switch Fritz on and then wait, for the
>>>>first line, the second line, and follow this.
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>>>>Q: You are just being funny! But seriously: you find ideas and check them with
>>>>Fritz...
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>>>>Bareev: I find ideas? No, FRITZ finds the ideas. I don't. Because we don't have
>>>>time. We seriously have to follow all these games and we simply don't have
>>>>enough time. Simply too much information.
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>Chris Carson
>>>
>>> :)))
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>>Yes, it should be noted that Bareev has a VERY biting sense of humor and is
>>perfectly able to say so with the straightest face. He is also know to be one of
>>the deepest strategists in chess, so let the reader beware. Personally, I
>>thought a lot of the interview was hilarious.
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>Sorry, but i must beg to differ with you Mr Silver, in fact I believe that Gm
>Bareev was very Serious in his article, he was asked if he was joking and
>replied no,
Be very careful with what Bareev says. He doesn't say he isn't joking. His humor
is quite serious though. I'm sure he is laying out a very strong criticism of
many of his colleagues (GMs in other words - and not specifically the top 10). I
also never implied that he thought that computers were in fact weak, only that I
do not for an instant believe that he just leaves Fritz to do his preparation
for him, while he goes out for a bite.
Albert
>The fact that all the Top players use Fritz to prepare for their
>games proves that they do not view computers as the Weak, incompetent players
>some make them out to be.
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