Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:04:21 06/18/01
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On June 18, 2001 at 14:37:04, Mark Young wrote: >On June 18, 2001 at 14:23:25, Peter Fendrich wrote: > >>On June 18, 2001 at 13:41:25, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2001 at 12:42:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On June 18, 2001 at 08:21:54, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>Here in Finland we have 3 GMs. Here's from their ratings from fide: >>>>> >>>>>500011 Yrjola, Jouni g 2419 2 24.10.1959 >>>>>500020 Westerinen, Heikki M.J. g 2412 10 27.4.1944 >>>>>500038 Rantanen, Yrjo A. g 2327 0 23.4.1950 >>>>> >>>>>You can give computer a knight handicap to get interesting match... >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>> >>>Quoted from Bob's post: >>> >>>"So picking a bunch of GMs with ratings of 2400 and then saying "hey, computers >>>are this good, so..." doesn't make much sense. Because at _some_ point in time, >>>those 2400 GM players were 2600+ GM players, otherwise they would not have >>>gotten the title..." >>> >>>You are Dead Wrong again Bob, we will take the 3 Grandmasters from the previous >>>post for example. Not one of these Grandmasters was ever close to 2600 elo and >>>in fact only one of these grandmasters was able to best 2500+ elo. As usual in >>>this argument your theory falls apart in the light of FACTS. >>> >>> >>>Yrjola, Jouni GM >>>best elo 2515, 1984 >>> >>>Westerinen, Heikki M.J. GM >>>best elo 2485, 1976 >>> >>>Rantanen, Yrjo A. GM >>>best elo 2460, 1979 >> >>FIDE had a "Central Committee Meeting" at Oosterbeek in Sept 1975. >>At that meeting they changed the regulations for awarding IM and GM titles. >>They approved a proposition to add rating requirement to title norms (2400 and >>2500 respectively for IM and GM titles). > >Correct, and this was good move by FIDE. As it is much harder to achieve a 2500+ >elo rating the make TPR's for Grandmaster status. Do you have a statistics that proves it. Here is a way to check if you are right that the 2500+ is much harder take all the humans that achieved one of the following: 1)GM norms in 2 or 3 tournaments with at least 24 games 2)Rating of at least 2500 I am interested to know how many of them achieved 1 first or only 1 and how many of them achieved 2 first or only 2. For this discussion humans who achieved their first rating of more than 2500 based on their tournament when they got the last GM norm are considered as humans who achieved both targets at the same time Uri
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