Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:11:14 06/18/01
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On June 18, 2001 at 14:31:53, Mark Young wrote: >On June 18, 2001 at 14:15:05, Côme wrote: > >>On June 18, 2001 at 13:41:25, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2001 at 12:42:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On June 18, 2001 at 08:21:54, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>Here in Finland we have 3 GMs. Here's from their ratings from fide: >>>>> >>>>>500011 Yrjola, Jouni g 2419 2 24.10.1959 >>>>>500020 Westerinen, Heikki M.J. g 2412 10 27.4.1944 >>>>>500038 Rantanen, Yrjo A. g 2327 0 23.4.1950 >>>>> >>>>>You can give computer a knight handicap to get interesting match... >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>> >>>Quoted from Bob's post: >>> >>>"So picking a bunch of GMs with ratings of 2400 and then saying "hey, computers >>>are this good, so..." doesn't make much sense. Because at _some_ point in time, >>>those 2400 GM players were 2600+ GM players, otherwise they would not have >>>gotten the title..." >>> >>>You are Dead Wrong again Bob, we will take the 3 Grandmasters from the previous >>>post for example. Not one of these Grandmasters was ever close to 2600 elo and >>>in fact only one of these grandmasters was able to best 2500+ elo. As usual in >>>this argument your theory falls apart in the light of FACTS. >> >>Hello !! >>You forgot one important thing : They all had +2500 in intermediate elo ! >>the elo you give is the best rating published. >>They all made Gm norms (TPR +2600) and had +2500 betwenn 2 fide list. >>best regards >>Alexandre Come > >You are making my point, it is much easier to make TPR's then hold a elo of >2500+ for computers to be considered GM strength. If a computer can hold a 2500+ >elo it is performing better then alot of grandmssters, and should be considered >Grandmaster strength. The question is what is the meaning of grandmaster strength If being better than a lot of grandmasters mean GM strength than IM's who can hold elo of 2500+ should be considered also as GM strength. I think that Bob do not mean to this by the words GM strength. I think that he means the strength that you need to become a GM. You can have lower strength later without losing the GM title. Uri
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