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Subject: Re: Gravy for the brain that supports a 2500+ elo standard for computer GM's

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 14:45:10 06/18/01

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On June 18, 2001 at 17:28:55, Mark Young wrote:

>I.      Below is the 11 top countries with the most GM's
>
>II.     In the Top 11 countries the one with the highest GM average is Ukraine
>        at 2545.30 Elo with 37 GM's
>
>III.    In the Top 11 countries the one with the lowest GM average is
>        Yugoslavia at 2479.46 with 41 GM's
>
>
>I think it is important to understand what it means to be an average Grandmaster
>when discussing what we mean by GM strength for computers. Some in this forum
>seem to insist that computers must perform like the Elite Grandmaster’s. Before
>anyone considers them to be playing at Grandmaster strength.
>
>This shows a lack of understanding in what a normal Grandmaster is, and what the
>true strength of a normal or average grandmaster is, and their abilities, and
>Elo status.
>
>Titles      Country        GM  Average rating GM   IM  Average rating IM
>1           Russia         119  2545.28            304  2415.07
>2           Germany        49   2509.14            146  2401.75
>3           United States  48   2507.50             79  2408.19
>4           Yugoslavia     41   2479.46             94  2383.39
>5           Ukraine        37   2545.30            116  2422.35
>6           England        33   2523.91             42  2381.86
>7           Israel         32   2535.63             31  2404.19
>8           Hungary        28   2491.89             91  2372.02
>9           France         22   2539.36             43  2386.12
>10          Bulgaria       20   2499.35             44  2366.89
>11          Spain          18   2486.28             46  2406.15

I agree with you Mark,
and I think that many of those "GM" should be easily beaten in tournament time
by the strongest chess programs like Fritz or Tiger .
A question for everybody : is the russian the most intelligent race on planet
earth or there are other possible answers ? ;)



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