Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:33:09 06/18/01
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On June 18, 2001 at 17:52:43, Dann Corbit wrote: >On June 18, 2001 at 17:28:55, Mark Young wrote: > >>I. Below is the 11 top countries with the most GM's >> >>II. In the Top 11 countries the one with the highest GM average is Ukraine >> at 2545.30 Elo with 37 GM's >> >>III. In the Top 11 countries the one with the lowest GM average is >> Yugoslavia at 2479.46 with 41 GM's >> >> >>I think it is important to understand what it means to be an average Grandmaster >>when discussing what we mean by GM strength for computers. Some in this forum >>seem to insist that computers must perform like the Elite Grandmaster?s. Before >>anyone considers them to be playing at Grandmaster strength. >> >>This shows a lack of understanding in what a normal Grandmaster is, and what the >>true strength of a normal or average grandmaster is, and their abilities, and >>Elo status. >> >>Titles Country GM Average rating GM IM Average rating IM >>1 Russia 119 2545.28 304 2415.07 >>2 Germany 49 2509.14 146 2401.75 >>3 United States 48 2507.50 79 2408.19 >>4 Yugoslavia 41 2479.46 94 2383.39 >>5 Ukraine 37 2545.30 116 2422.35 >>6 England 33 2523.91 42 2381.86 >>7 Israel 32 2535.63 31 2404.19 >>8 Hungary 28 2491.89 91 2372.02 >>9 France 22 2539.36 43 2386.12 >>10 Bulgaria 20 2499.35 44 2366.89 >>11 Spain 18 2486.28 46 2406.15 > >ELO is not the only feature of what it means to be a GM. The qualifications may >have been relaxed recently, or maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly. In any >case, >From: >http://handbook.fide.com/handbook.cgi?level=B&level=01&level=01& >we have: > >"1.0. Requirements for the titles designated in 0.31. > >1.1 Grandmaster: Obtained by achieving any of the following: > >1.11 Two or more GM results in events covering at least 24 games (30 games >without a round robin or Olympiad) and a rating of at least 2500 in the FIDE >Rating List current at the time the FIDE Congress considers the application, or >within seven years of the first title result being achieved. (See 1.7, 10.10) >(GA '93) > >1.12 Qualification for the Candidates Competition for the World Championship. > >1.13 One GM result in a FIDE Interzonal tournament. > >1.14 Winning the Women's World Championship match. (GA '93) > >1.15 Winner on tiebreak in the World Junior Championship. (GA '93 and EB '99) > >1.16 A tie for first place in the World Junior Championship is equivalent to >one 9-game GM result. (GA '93) > >1.17 Winner on tiebreak in the Continental Individual or Continental Junior >Championship is equivalent to one 9-game GM result. (GA '95 and EB '99) Arab and >Centro American - Caribbean Youth events will be treated as Continental >Championships. (GA '93) > >1.18 Clear first place in the Women's Candidates Tournament is equivalent to >one 9-game GM result. (GA '93) > >1.19 One 13-game GM result in the Olympiad will lead to the award of the full >title. (GA '93). > >1.20 Winner of the World Senior Championship (GA 97)" > > >Especially interesting is 1.13. If a chess program has had a GM result in an >interzonal, then it is a GM! > >Has any such match taken place? Absolutely not. They are not allowed in the zonal matches, which means they could never meet in the inter-zonal playoffs. In fact, I think these are all "dead" with the new way FIDE does the WC.
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