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Subject: Re: I might be interested in a Palm. Some questions....

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 23:09:36 06/18/01

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I believe your Palm market share numbers are slightly outdated :-)

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5131450.html

Eugene

On June 17, 2001 at 17:04:05, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 17, 2001 at 11:34:09, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>  1.Can someone explain to me exactly what Palm is good for, what it is and what
>>it does?
>
>
>It is a true computer that fits in your hand and allows you to carry a lot of
>your important data with you all the time.
>
>You can easily transfer data from your PC to your Palm, and easily transfer it
>back to the PC if you have made any change. By easy I mean really easy. You put
>the Palm on its cradle and push ONE button.
>
>The Palms come with various memory sizes, currently 4 or 8Mb is common. That is
>plenty of space. You cannot compare PC memory size with Palm memory size. On the
>PC, 8Mb is ridiculously small (the system doesn't even fit in!) but on the Palm
>it represents thousands of pages of information.
>
>The Palm is also presented as a sophisticated organizer, but it is actually a
>true computer.
>
>It has a graphical operating system. I find the Palm Operating System (PalmOS)
>to be rather close to the first versions of MacOs. So for me the Palm is a
>little bit like a Mac Classic in my pocket. As a matter of facts it uses the
>same processor as the first Macintoshs.
>
>The mouse is replaced by the stylus. The keyboard is replaced by handwritting
>recognition (or a virtual onscreen popup keyboard).
>
>The PalmOS operating system is well documented and there exists commercial as
>well as free tools to write programs for it. So thousands of developpers have
>created thousands of applications for it.
>
>If you want to see what it can do, then you need to have a look at the
>applications that run on it.
>
>Just go there:
>
>  http://www.palmgear.com
>
>it is just one of the sites that offer to download PalmOS applications. Some of
>them are free, some of them are not, but generally a Palm application is not
>expensive.
>
>There are currently close to 15 million Palm users in the world.
>
>This represents IIRC 70% of the market of handheld computers.
>
>The rest is composed of various handheld models which are not compatible with
>each other.
>
>PocketPC represents IIRC someting like 10% of the market at this time.
>
>
>
>
>
>>  2.Can the best buy be recomended?
>
>
>3Com, the original creator of the Palm, has been very wise by agreeing to sell
>licences of his OS to other companies.
>
>So at this time there are several companies that offer PalmOS computers. A true
>"Palm" is the one sold by 3Com/USRobotics, but Sony, Handspring and IBM as well
>as other less known companies all manufacture PalmOS computers.
>
>99% of the PalmOS applications will run indifferently on any of these computers.
>So you do not need to care about compatibility, you just need to find the right
>model for you.
>
>Personally I would suggest that you have a closer look at the Palm Vx (8Mb of
>RAM, and currently rather cheap) or one of the high end Handspring models (some
>are running faster than their 3Com equivalents, which is better for chess
>programs).
>
>Go to:
>
>  http://www.palm.com
>
>  http://www.handspring.com
>
>
>
>
>>  3.Obviously I'm also interested in chess program(s) for Palm. I'm sorry that I
>>never read most of these threads about it, but now I'm asking, in a nutshell,
>>what are the features and elo estimate of Palm Tiger?
>
>
>Chess Tiger for Palm is a COMPLETE port of the Chess Tiger 14 engine (it is
>actually more advanced than Chess Tiger 14).
>
>I estimate that on a fast Palm it is between 2100 and 2200 SSDF elo.
>
>Go to my website to find more:
>
>  http://www.chesstiger.com
>
>
>
>
>>  4. Others?
>
>
>Richard Land has ported his 1987 version (Mephisto Roma) to the Palm under the
>name ChessGenius. This one does not have hash tables, but plays well.
>
>  http://www.chessgenius.com
>
>
>
>
>>  5.Can Palm access internet together with cellphone? If so, how much can be
>>displayed on it?
>
>
>Yes, I can read/answer my emails and access the Web with my Palm.
>
>In order to do so you need:
>* a compatible cell phone
>* a Palm mail client and Web browser
>
>I'm using a Nokia 8210 cell phone. The good thing with this one is that it is a
>Nokia (the best cell phone manufacturer out there), it's very small, and it has
>an infrared port. So I don't need to plug any cable in when I want to access the
>net. The phone and my Palm are connected together by the IR ports.
>
>If you have another phone, you might need a cable to connect the phone and the
>Palm.
>
>The screen is a little bit small to display Web pages, but it works anyway. for
>example I can do a search at Yahoo without any problem. With the Web browser I'm
>using (Eudora) I cannot see graphics, but some browsers will display them.
>
>There are also WAP browsers for the Palm if you are interested in WAP.
>
>
>
>
>>  6.Is it any good for graphics, or even video?
>
>
>You can display graphics on the Palm. Most Palms allow grayscale graphics. Some
>of them do have color screens.
>
>There are applications that allow you to carry photo albums with you.
>
>Video will be possible later, when the processors of the Palm have been upgraded
>to the brand new models from Motorola with an ARM (RISC) core.
>
>
>
>>Thanks for answers!
>>(The idea is that I'm about to leave for the USA where it is much better to buy
>>such a thing than in Israel. I expect to be away for about 5 weeks. Farewell! in
>>about another 40 hours, and I'll be checking in until then.)
>
>
>There are currently real bargains on the Palm market. Palm has big inventories
>at this time and is offering special prices. That's the right time to buy a Palm
>in the US I guess.
>
>
>
>    Christophe



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