Author: Vine Smith
Date: 02:15:30 06/19/01
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On June 19, 2001 at 03:49:07, Mark Young wrote: >On June 19, 2001 at 00:31:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 18, 2001 at 18:01:49, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>Nice summary Mark. Calculate the overall average for GM's, I did it last year >>>and it was around 2525. Programs are performaing higher than that and >>>performance is the only thing that matters in my opinion. :) >>> >>>I for one do not care about a title, but the performance is the key. :) >>> >>>Best Regards, >>>Chris Carson >> >> >>Several points: >> >>1. anyone check the _age_ of each GM being 'averaged' into this mess? IE >>a 75 year old GM is still a GM, but won't have much of a rating. >> >>2. anyhone check to make sure ratings were current? IE Fischer's rating is >>not particularly interesting since it is 30 years old and from a different >>rating era. >> >>The main problem is probably age. Just like the "baby-boomers" are threatening >>retirement systems around the world, they are also moving up into the "older-GM" >>group as well. If you have more old GM players, then you will have a lower >>overall GM average. Which means exactly nothing of course. > >This is data from the latest Fide list. If you think the data is flawed....Old >Grandmasters, Out of date Grandmasters, mistakes in calculations, or just fraud >etc. Then make your case with data not theory. It's easy to bluster, it much >harder to do the work to prove the case as I and others are doing. Gee, I thought it was "harder to do the work" of programming computers to play chess. But now I see that Prof. Hyatt should just give up improving Crafty's code, and instead compile masses of statistics to prove that its rating is 2500, 2600 or whatever. New versions of Crafty will consist of countless pages of ever more refined calculations always resulting in higher Elo ratings.
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