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Subject: Re: Gravy for the brain that supports a 2500+ elo standard for computer GM's

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:58:26 06/19/01

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On June 18, 2001 at 17:45:10, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

>On June 18, 2001 at 17:28:55, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>I.      Below is the 11 top countries with the most GM's
>>
>>II.     In the Top 11 countries the one with the highest GM average is Ukraine
>>        at 2545.30 Elo with 37 GM's
>>
>>III.    In the Top 11 countries the one with the lowest GM average is
>>        Yugoslavia at 2479.46 with 41 GM's
>>
>>
>>I think it is important to understand what it means to be an average Grandmaster
>>when discussing what we mean by GM strength for computers. Some in this forum
>>seem to insist that computers must perform like the Elite Grandmaster?s. Before
>>anyone considers them to be playing at Grandmaster strength.
>>
>>This shows a lack of understanding in what a normal Grandmaster is, and what the
>>true strength of a normal or average grandmaster is, and their abilities, and
>>Elo status.
>>
>>Titles      Country        GM  Average rating GM   IM  Average rating IM
>>1           Russia         119  2545.28            304  2415.07
>>2           Germany        49   2509.14            146  2401.75
>>3           United States  48   2507.50             79  2408.19
>>4           Yugoslavia     41   2479.46             94  2383.39
>>5           Ukraine        37   2545.30            116  2422.35
>>6           England        33   2523.91             42  2381.86
>>7           Israel         32   2535.63             31  2404.19
>>8           Hungary        28   2491.89             91  2372.02
>>9           France         22   2539.36             43  2386.12
>>10          Bulgaria       20   2499.35             44  2366.89
>>11          Spain          18   2486.28             46  2406.15
>
>I agree with you Mark,
>and I think that many of those "GM" should be easily beaten in tournament time
>by the strongest chess programs like Fritz or Tiger .
>A question for everybody : is the russian the most intelligent race on planet
>earth or there are other possible answers ? ;)

Nope.  They just had a national program to foster chess grandmasters.  Most
other countries (USA included) did not (do not).



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