Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:07:20 06/19/01
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On June 19, 2001 at 09:19:39, Mark Young wrote: > >That is what happend...not. > >> >>Use all the old GM ratings. Use 1970 ratings mixed with 2000 ratings. Use >>players that are 25 along with players that are 80. Use the ones that play >>multiple events a year and the ones that play one event every several years. >>Use the average IQ of a WWF wrestler. And the weight of the average Japanese >>wrestler. > >Bob, Here is the point even cherry pick data (Best elo ever for all GM's) still >does not produce the results you claim...That GM'S are over 2600+ elo average. > > OK... let's cut the bull**** here. I have _never_ claimed that GM players are over 2600 average. _never_. And I will wait for you to produce _any_ post by me that suggested that. I said this, clearly and distinctly: "GM players have to have a FIDE rating of at _least_ 2500, plus they have to produce a 2600+ rating over a bunch of games, before they become GM players." I also said this: "at some point, we _know_ that a GM was playing at a 2600 level, because he _had_ to to get the norms out of the way". Where you got your idea that I claimed that GM players average 2600 is something you will have to reconcile, because _I_ didn't say that. Ever. And you continue to accuse me of "not reading???" >So the computers only need to play at a 2600 elo level for 20 to 30 games in >your eyes to be considered GM's? If so they are playing at 2630 level for almost >50 games. Nope. I didn't say that either. And this begins to look like a hopeless discussion since I don't believe my writing is that unclear. I will say it again. To be a GM, the computer needs to do the following: 1. Play at a consistent 2500+ level over at least 24 games to get by the provisional rating stage and have an established rating of 2500+. 2. Play at a 2600+ level for 24-30 games to satisfy the GM norm requirements. That seems pretty clear to me as to what has to be done. Not "either" of the above, but "both".
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