Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:24:16 06/19/01
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On June 19, 2001 at 12:46:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 19, 2001 at 12:20:36, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On June 19, 2001 at 12:08:36, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>On June 19, 2001 at 12:05:33, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>> >>>>The Deep Blue clone FriarTuck >>> >>>I feel like the last few days of refuting Vincent's post here >>>have been void. >>> >>>FriarTuck is crafty with singular extensions. Not Deep Blue. >>>It runs 500Knps, not 200Mnps >> >>but my modifications have made crafty nearly as inefficient as deep blue >>was searching. I'm not saying crafty is tactical as strong at the >>same depth as DB was. What i'm saying is that the overhead it >>requires to get near a depth n is more near the overhead of what DB >>needed to get to a depth n, because nowadays very few who post >>here can still imagine how bad those days were when one >>didn't have nullmove and no shared hashtables. >> >>Best regards, >>Vincent >> >>>-- >>>GCP > > >Vincent... give it up. I used null-move to win the 1983 WCCC tournament. It >has been around for a _long_ time. Just because they chose to not use it >doesn't mean they are stupid. They _chose_ to not use it. Just like I >_choose_ to not use the double-null-move stuff because it isn't very efficient >to do so... First of all i never said they were stupid to not use it. It would not have beenmy choice. In 1994 if i would have had the same choice as them i might have chosen for the same solution. However with this reaction you imply already how successful nullmove with hashtables at todays hardware is. So successfull that you imply that not using it is stupid! Amazing how opinions change within 3 years of time! >There is a difference between "choosing to not do something" and "not knowing >enough to do something". A _big_ difference. > >This experiment is folly from front to back, and is pointless... But it is showing the reality as it is in 2001. It is not saying anything about choices in 1994 of course!
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