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Subject: Re: What i think Dr. Hyaat means on the Computer Gm question

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 02:16:48 06/20/01

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Hi

On June 20, 2001 at 04:38:01, odell hall wrote:

>HI CCC
>
>  Since I believe it has been established that the Conflict Concerning The
>Computer GM question boils down to a question of  semantics, or the
>relationship betweeen words and their meanings, i would like to add a thought.
>Perhaps what Doctor Hyatt and others are saying is that Computers UNDERSTANDING
>of Chess is at the 2350-2400 level, Although they may, or may not be
>Grandmaster Strength. Personally i would agree with many here if they formed
>the statement in that Context, i believe computers understand Chess actually at
>the 2100 Level, but they play chess at the Grandmaster LEVEL, this is because
>they have certain talents that Humans Lack, mainly the ability to accurately
>count variations.  So maybe we are all agreeing, but not to the wording, or
>meanings of defintions. I am sure, mark and chris carson would agree that
>computers understanding of chess is at the 2100 level or lower. But they are
>able to produce Grandmaster level play, because of other talents which is
>unique to Computers? Does this make sense to anyone?

You guys are using expressions like 'understanding of chess', 'playing at GM
level' etc w/o ever defining them. The only term in this context which has a
definition most people agree with is that of what a GM is. (defined by FIDE)

Define the terms you use and then  argue who is of this and that strength. (Or
don't define the terms and throw mudpies at each other - YMMV)

Regards,

Sargon



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