Author: Chris Carson
Date: 03:41:32 06/20/01
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On June 20, 2001 at 04:38:01, odell hall wrote: >HI CCC > > Since I believe it has been established that the Conflict Concerning The >Computer GM question boils down to a question of semantics, or the relationship >betweeen words and their meanings, i would like to add a thought. >Perhaps what Doctor Hyatt and others are saying is that Computers UNDERSTANDING >of Chess is at the 2350-2400 level, Although they may, or may not be Grandmaster >Strength. Personally i would agree with many here if they formed the statement >in that Context, i believe computers understand Chess actually at the 2100 >Level, but they play chess at the Grandmaster LEVEL, this is because they have >certain talents that Humans Lack, mainly the ability to accurately count >variations. So maybe we are all agreeing, but not to the wording, or meanings >of defintions. I am sure, mark and chris carson would agree that computers >understanding of chess is at the 2100 level or lower. But they are able to >produce Grandmaster level play, because of other talents which is unique to >Computers? Does this make sense to anyone? Nice post. I have said this before and I am happy to say it again. :) I do not care about the Title GM, but if a program were to get the Title GM then it should meet the criteria set by FIDE. :) I do not care about Understanding/Knowledge or assigning a rating to Understanding/Knowledge based on opinion. However, if anyone else does, go ahead, but that is not part of my discussion. It is a separate discussion. I have no interest in that except when I can use it to make my chess program "Dallas" better (get more wins, fewer losses). :) I am only discussing results (games played at 40/2). Wins, Draws, Losses, ELO ratings. When the 200Mhz machines came out, some results were 2600, others were 2300 and the discussion about results, strength, and consistency began. With 500Mhz machines the results, strength and consistency broke the 2500 ELO barier over a lot of games. On 866Mhz hardware and faster, the 2600 ELO rating barrier has been broken by several programs. This is all I am interested in. This puts these programs playing in the TOP 100 of all players. Call it GM strength or call it typical club player strength. I do not care, I only care about the performance (results). :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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