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Subject: Re: Why GM Ashley was picked.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 10:08:10 06/20/01

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On June 20, 2001 at 12:55:52, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On June 20, 2001 at 11:22:49, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 2001 at 11:05:21, C McClain Morris, Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>It's more revealing about the mindset of the questioner, in regards to the
>>>legitimacy of GM Ashley's GM status. Why wasn't this question asked about the
>>>playing strength of non-black GM's who earned their GM norm consistent with GM
>>>Ashley's performance?
>>>
>>>CMcMo
>>
>>
>>I. GM Ashley is an example of an average Grandmaster.
>>
>>II. GM Ashley is a Newer Grandmaster.
>>
>>III. GM Ashley has a rating below 2500 as many other Grandmasters do, not just
>>the "old Grandmasters"
>>
>>IV. GM Ashley best Elo was just 2500.
>
>GM Ashley is a popular target, almost certainly because he is black.  There are
>other GM's with lower ELO.

Not by me, I don't have a problem with him being a GM, He teaches me chess on
chess wise. I am not the one who has a problem with a 2484 elo GM, It was not I
that suggest GM's are not GM's because they don't have a super high rating or
because they are old. All it takes is making the norms and have a rating of
2500, and GM Ashley's best elo was just that 2500. I am not the one who
suggested players like GM Smyslov (2491elo) with a higher elo the GM Ashley are
not worthy to be GM's or be calculated into what a average GM is.

>
>>Making the point that this is all that is needed to be a Grandmaster in todays
>>world, Not the lofty standards Bob and other are trying to say it take to be a
>>Grandmaster.
>
>You still have to get 3 2600 norms in an extremely talented field or meet the
>other requirements.
>
>There are 6 billion people on the earth.
>There are less than 500 GM's.
>That means that less than one in 12,000,000 persons on the earth have achieved
>that distinction.
>
>To become a GM is harder than to become a professional basketball player.
>To become a GM is harder than just about any other task I can think of.
>
>GM's deserve nothing but praise because of their distinction as such.  The cries
>of "watered down!" are absurd spew.
>
>IMO-YMMV.



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