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Subject: Re: Bunch of nonsense

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:08:33 06/20/01

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On June 20, 2001 at 19:22:28, John Wentworth wrote:

>On June 20, 2001 at 12:55:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 20, 2001 at 11:22:49, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On June 20, 2001 at 11:05:21, C McClain Morris, Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's more revealing about the mindset of the questioner, in regards to the
>>>>legitimacy of GM Ashley's GM status. Why wasn't this question asked about the
>>>>playing strength of non-black GM's who earned their GM norm consistent with GM
>>>>Ashley's performance?
>>>>
>>>>CMcMo
>>>
>>>
>>>I. GM Ashley is an example of an average Grandmaster.
>>>
>>>II. GM Ashley is a Newer Grandmaster.
>>>
>>>III. GM Ashley has a rating below 2500 as many other Grandmasters do, not just
>>>the "old Grandmasters"
>>>
>>>IV. GM Ashley best Elo was just 2500.
>>
>>GM Ashley is a popular target, almost certainly because he is black.  There are
>>other GM's with lower ELO.
>>
>>>Making the point that this is all that is needed to be a Grandmaster in todays
>>>world, Not the lofty standards Bob and other are trying to say it take to be a
>>>Grandmaster.
>>
>>You still have to get 3 2600 norms in an extremely talented field or meet the
>>other requirements.
>>
>>There are 6 billion people on the earth.
>>There are less than 500 GM's.
>
>So, that means nothing. There are 6 billion people on earth, a few of which
>pluck chickens. Only a handful reach the elite title of elite chicken plucker. I
>think part of the reason for so few GM's, is that few can afford to play chess
>full time.

You're clearly wrong about that.  Not about few being able to play chess full
time, but that plucking chickens is as hard as chess.  I've done both.

>>That means that less than one in 12,000,000 persons on the earth have achieved
>>that distinction.
>Probably about the same odds as the elite chicken pluckers....
>
>
>>To become a GM is harder than to become a professional basketball player.
>
>Not so sure on this......
>
>>To become a GM is harder than just about any other task I can think of.
>
>I could think of about a million things that are harder...
>Let's see,
>
>Becoming the World Chess Champion is much harder than just becoming a GM

Got me there.

>Brain surgery

Have to ask Kamsky about that one.

>Climbing Mt. Everest

I suspect it's about the same.  But quite a large fraction of the everest
climbers die, so the risk is a bit higher.

>Walking through Harlem with $10,000.00 in your hands,in the middle of the night
>without getting mugged.

It happens all the time.

>Becoming rich while working at McDonald's

Inheritance can happen any time.

>Getting Bill Gates to send you a million or two

No statistics for this one.

>Getting Cindy Crawford to go out with you

Not interested anyway.

>Buying the very first production model Corvette

Got me again.  You have a better imagination than I do.

>Believing something a politician tells you etc. etc.

I don't think this is rare at all.  But intelligence must be considered.

>>GM's deserve nothing but praise because of their distinction as such.
>
>Praise for what? It's a game. Should be no more praise than someone who is the
>best at chicken plucking, spitting for distance, hot dog eating contests etc.
>etc.

It's what we want to see, which is what makes it valuable.  If the world's best
chicken plucker could earn a million dollars in a match against the number one
contender, then that would be similar.  Since nobody much cares about chicken
feather removal velocity, I doubt if anyone would be interested.

By the way, after you pluck the chicken, roll up a newspaper and light the end
of it.  Orbit the chicken a few times with the flames to burn off the little
hair-like protrudances left over from manual plucking.  Not sure how the
factories do it.

>> The cries
>>of "watered down!" are absurd spew.
>>
>>IMO-YMMV.



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