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Subject: Re: Triple Brain: maybe SOS is not the best Shredder's partner?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:21:53 06/21/01

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On June 21, 2001 at 08:00:15, Marcus Kaestner wrote:

>>it is also clear that
>>the tripple brain has no chance in blitz
>
>here you are right.
>
>>when I believe that chessbits rating
>>list is based  mainly on blitz.
>>
>>I know from the past that the list is based on games at different time control
>>when most of the games are blitz.
>
>here you are wrong. we have about 30% blitz, 50% rapid and 20% tourn

You are right
I remembered that most of the games were not tournament time control.
I translated it to blitz and I was wrong but the fact is still that most of the
games are not tournament time control games.

>
>>
>>The tripple brain means that both engines get only half of the time to search.
>>It may work at tournament time control but at blitz I expect the tripple brain
>>to be outsearched.
>>
>>>(just or comparison, in the same list Tiger 14 is rated #1 with 2780, and Deep
>>>Fritz Dual #2 with 2754)
>>
>>Ir only proves that we cannot trust this list for tournament games.
>
>it only proves, that t14 is in front of deep fritz dual by 13 points

2780-2754>13 andthese are the numbers that I see in this post.

, while
>tiger is in front of deep fritz single by 43 points. and it proves further that
>deep fritz dual is better than deep fritz single based on the played games.
>
>>
>>Deep Fritz single is at the same level as Tiger based on the ssdf games so I do
>>not believe that Deep fritz dual can be weaker than Tiger14.
>
>they are only on the same level on the special environment the ssdf uses.
>
>marcus

I understood that Tiger14 suffered from running under chessbase but
I see no reason for Gambittiger2 to suffer and Deep Fritz is still 3 elo above
Gambittiger2 based on the ssdf list.

I remember also results not from the ssdf but from the Rebel forum when Tiger
did better at blitz(it won all the marches at all time control but the result
was better in blitz)

I also know that Tiger14 lost against Junior6 in an engine-engine match of one
of my friends(13.5 hours per game on one pentium500) when it evaluated the
starting position that was from my friend's correspondence game as more than +4
pawns for itself(I posted the game in this forum)  so my impression is that
Tiger14 is not the best at long time control.

Uri



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