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Subject: Re: What is:Kramnik really saying about Fritz's strength? - GM level??

Author: Charles Milton Ling

Date: 14:19:55 06/21/01

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On June 21, 2001 at 16:38:58, Mark Young wrote:

>On June 21, 2001 at 09:41:01, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>
>>From an interview at Kasparovchess site:
>>
>>One more serious contest is in store for you, the match with a computer. How are
>>you preparing for this match? It’s common knowledge that, in preparing for duels
>>with humans, you don’t rely on a computer’s help much.
>>
>>It’s true that I prefer to work in the good old fashion. Well, certainly I will
>>play training games at home. According to the contract, I will obtain the
>>printouts of the DeepFritz games in late summer.
>>
>>I take this match very seriously and I really believe that the computer will be
>>a hard nut to crack. The rumors that DeepFritz is a far cry from DeepBlue are
>>not true to life. I don’t think that DeepFritz is much weaker than DeepBlue.
>>However, I know that the programmers have made vast headway in the past three
>>years. Fritz’s play is getting stronger every year. At some moments the machine
>>really acquires human features – for instance, it sacrifices material with a
>>view to gaining the initiative. So I am not at all sure that I will be a success
>>at this match. Of course, the world’s strongest chess players are better at
>>evaluating positions than computers, but people can get tired and get caught in
>>time trouble and so on. The end of the match will be the most difficult stage of
>>all.
>
>Kramnik:
>"I really believe that the computer will be
>a hard nut to crack."
>
>Kramnik:
>"The rumors that DeepFritz is a far cry from DeepBlue are
>not true to life."
>
>Kramnik:
>"I don’t think that DeepFritz is much weaker than DeepBlue."
>
>Kramnik:
>"At some moments the machine
>really acquires human features – for instance, it sacrifices material with a
>view to gaining the initiative. So I am not at all sure that I will be a success
>at this match"
>
>The questions that crosses my mind when reading Kramnik’s statements:
>
>I.	Is this hype for the upcoming match?
>II.	Does GM Kramnik really think he may not beat Fritz?
>III.	How strong does GM Kramnik think Deep Blue was?
>IV.	Is GM Kramnik saying Fritz is competitive at the Elite GM level?
>V.	Is GM Kramnik saying Fritz is a GM Level program?
>VI.	Are we to take GM Kramnik statements as true in his own mind?

Obviously, my comments can be nothing more than conjecture, but I would say:

I. Yes - a little bit.
II. Yes - a very little bit.
III. He probably (and I think rightly) assumes that Kasparov was the worst
choice among the Super GMs to play the program/machine.  In other words, it was
more Kasparov losing than DB winning.  This could then lead to the conclusion
that Fritz is almost as unpleasant.
IV. I don't interpret his comments that way.  I doubt that he thinks so.
V. Yes, I think *that* interpretation is reasonable.  After all, what does "GM"
mean these days?  Top 700, or something like that.
VI. I have yet to hear Kramnik (and I thank him for it) say something he
obviously knows is false.

To repeat: mere conjecture...

Charley



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