Author: Chris Carson
Date: 15:09:54 06/21/01
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On June 21, 2001 at 17:32:35, Mark Young wrote: >On June 21, 2001 at 17:19:55, Charles Milton Ling wrote: > >>On June 21, 2001 at 16:38:58, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On June 21, 2001 at 09:41:01, Pierre Bourget wrote: >>> >>>>From an interview at Kasparovchess site: >>>> >>>>One more serious contest is in store for you, the match with a computer. How are >>>>you preparing for this match? It’s common knowledge that, in preparing for duels >>>>with humans, you don’t rely on a computer’s help much. >>>> >>>>It’s true that I prefer to work in the good old fashion. Well, certainly I will >>>>play training games at home. According to the contract, I will obtain the >>>>printouts of the DeepFritz games in late summer. >>>> >>>>I take this match very seriously and I really believe that the computer will be >>>>a hard nut to crack. The rumors that DeepFritz is a far cry from DeepBlue are >>>>not true to life. I don’t think that DeepFritz is much weaker than DeepBlue. >>>>However, I know that the programmers have made vast headway in the past three >>>>years. Fritz’s play is getting stronger every year. At some moments the machine >>>>really acquires human features – for instance, it sacrifices material with a >>>>view to gaining the initiative. So I am not at all sure that I will be a success >>>>at this match. Of course, the world’s strongest chess players are better at >>>>evaluating positions than computers, but people can get tired and get caught in >>>>time trouble and so on. The end of the match will be the most difficult stage of >>>>all. >>> >>>Kramnik: >>>"I really believe that the computer will be >>>a hard nut to crack." >>> >>>Kramnik: >>>"The rumors that DeepFritz is a far cry from DeepBlue are >>>not true to life." >>> >>>Kramnik: >>>"I don’t think that DeepFritz is much weaker than DeepBlue." >>> >>>Kramnik: >>>"At some moments the machine >>>really acquires human features – for instance, it sacrifices material with a >>>view to gaining the initiative. So I am not at all sure that I will be a success >>>at this match" >>> >>>The questions that crosses my mind when reading Kramnik’s statements: >>> >>>I. Is this hype for the upcoming match? >>>II. Does GM Kramnik really think he may not beat Fritz? >>>III. How strong does GM Kramnik think Deep Blue was? >>>IV. Is GM Kramnik saying Fritz is competitive at the Elite GM level? >>>V. Is GM Kramnik saying Fritz is a GM Level program? >>>VI. Are we to take GM Kramnik statements as true in his own mind? >> >>Obviously, my comments can be nothing more than conjecture, but I would say: >> >>I. Yes - a little bit. >>II. Yes - a very little bit. >>III. He probably (and I think rightly) assumes that Kasparov was the worst >>choice among the Super GMs to play the program/machine. In other words, it was >>more Kasparov losing than DB winning. This could then lead to the conclusion >>that Fritz is almost as unpleasant. >>IV. I don't interpret his comments that way. I doubt that he thinks so. > >I only think this because the World Champion said he my not best Firtz, and you >can not get much more Elite then the World Champion. I take that as meaning >Kramnik think Fritz is competitive at the Elite Level, not better. > > >>V. Yes, I think *that* interpretation is reasonable. After all, what does "GM" >>mean these days? Top 700, or something like that. >>VI. I have yet to hear Kramnik (and I thank him for it) say something he >>obviously knows is false. >> >>To repeat: mere conjecture... >> >>Charley Mark, Interesting questions. :) I have not heard GM Kramnik say anything he did not mean, just my own limited knowledge. Also, last year before the Dortmond tournament, Kramnik was very outspoken. GM Kramnik stated that he did not consider Junior to be as strong in tactics as others had proclaimed and that he was not afraid of the program in a tactical match. He proved his point later when he defeated Deep Junior while playing his own style. I was surprised, I thoought it might just be hype, but then he backed up his words. So for me, I just take what he says at face value until he gives me a reason to doubt him. :) I guess I might be nieve. :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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