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Subject: Re: What is:Kramnik really saying about Fritz's strength? - GM level??

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 15:23:32 06/21/01

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On June 21, 2001 at 18:01:28, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On June 21, 2001 at 17:51:26, Mark Young wrote:
>[snip]
>>Are you saying a Grandmaster can tell nothing about a programs strength, even
>>when he can study the games? Are you saying Kramnik must be a chess programmer
>>or a chess program expert to understad how strong computers play?
>>
>>I don't understand.
>
>On the one hand, nobody can argue that Kramnik is a chess super-genius.  A
>weird, fluky phenom with bizarre chess insight.  He can (no doubt) look at a
>game score and see brilliancies and errors at a glance.
>
>On the other hand, most GM's are ignorant about how to play against computers.
>I have sent some GM's email after high-profile computer matches and asked about
>their strategy.  Generally, they just play them like they would any other
>opponent.  Some are *totally* ignorant of what is hard for a computer to fathom.
>
>I *suspect* that if Kramnik plays anti-computer chess after 3 months of
>perparation he will slaughter the computer.  But if he plays it like any other
>opponent, I think it might be a very even match.  On the other hand, I could be
>wrong about computers.  Maybe computers have already advanced so far that even
>the right strategy is not that great of an advantage any more.
>
>Certainly, somewhere during the match any human -- even Kramnik -- will make
>some tiny tactical slip that will cost some fraction of a pawn.  Maybe that
>could be enough for an 8 CPU top level program to grind out a win.
>
>In any case, I know that the advice Kasparov got about how to play against Deep
>Blue was very, very bad advice.  In general, the knowlege level among GM's about
>how to face computers might have risen a little bit.  But not much.
>
>It will sure be an interesting match -- any way you look at it.

Dann,

I agree with you about this match.  I am only aware of the one public game GM
Kramnik played agains Deep Junior last year.  GM Kramnik won that one.  I am not
sure he needs anti-computer strategy, although I do think he can win with or
without it.  :)  I have a lot of respect for the abilities of a program like
Fritz and I agree with the assessment of GM Kramnik.  I hope it is a good match
and I will be rooting for GM Kramnik.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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