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Subject: Re: Testposition - Tactics

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 03:31:18 06/22/01

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On June 22, 2001 at 06:20:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 21, 2001 at 23:45:21, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 21, 2001 at 17:15:59, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  [D]4k2r/rp5p/pR4p1/4qp2/3pp1PQ/8/2P4P/R5K1 w k - 0 28
>>>
>>>
>>>  This position is from IM Berg-GM Hector, Sigeman tournament - Malmo.
>>>  These two very tactical skilled Swedes had battled it out just like
>>>  old masters did in the 19th century. Young Emanuel Berg sacked one
>>>  pawn after another but, as it looked, in vain. Now, all good stories
>>>  give some glory to the brave one and that is also what happened here.
>>>  In the above position white, 4 pawns less, has the resource 28.Ra5!! -
>>>  with the point 28.-Qxa5 29.Qf6!  (not 29.Re6+ Kd7). At the present
>>>  moment it looks like this 28.Ra5!! is good enough to draw the game
>>>  for white.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Test 1: Can your program find the move 28.Ra5!! - evals?
>>
>>It's a terrible [definitely losing] blunder, throwing away the rook for no
>>compensation:
>
>>
>>[D] 4k2r/rp5p/pR4p1/R3qp2/3pp1PQ/8/2P4P/6K1 b k - acd 15; acn 532177870; acs
>>1000; ce 1126; pv Qxa5 Rxg6 hxg6 Qxh8+ Kf7 Qxd4 Qe1+ Kg2 Qe2+ Kg1 Qxg4+ Kf1 Qf4+
>>Kg2 Ra8 Qd5+ Kf8 c4 Qf3+ Kg1 Qe3+ Kg2 Qe2+ Kg1 Ra7;
>
>The big blunder is in the way that chess programs work.
>I am not surprised that they cannot see nothing.
>
>The reason is simply the fact that they do not use a good algorithm.
>
>Programs except gustav cannot see a mate in 70 that was posted here and again
>the reason is simply the fact that all programs except gustav do not use the
>right algorithm to find mate in 70.
>
>After 1...Qxa5 2.Qf6 black must play 2...Qe1+ to get big advantage by the
>evaluation of the programs.
>
>after 3.Kg2 black is again forced to play a check.
>The number of checks is very high  and after enough checks programs do not
>extend enough and cannot see that black has to play checks.
>
>Uri


 That's totally correct.

 Sune



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