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Subject: Re: Kramnik on his match with DeepFritz

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:43:06 06/22/01

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On June 22, 2001 at 12:02:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 22, 2001 at 11:43:08, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2001 at 11:34:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2001 at 09:22:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 21, 2001 at 10:13:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Oh well he can buy deep fritz in a shop then he has deepfritz.
>>>>the only thing he won't have is the book of course.
>>>
>>>Not exactly
>>>
>>>The commercial Deep Fritz is not the same as the Deep Fritz that is going to
>>>play against kramnik.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Read my lips, it will still make the same positional horror moves
>>in those positions :)
>
>You assume that the programmers are not going to work on adding knowledge to
>Fritz's evaluation function before the match.
>I am not so sure about it.
>
>Uri

First tof all it's programmer and not programmers. It's Frans Morsch.
Secondly, frans is a hard working person, but he definitely has no
chess rating and never will have one.

And third and last: he has had 20 years of time now to implement
knowledge, and despite that he is in a position to definitely
experiment with it, and i don't doubt he tries, his main problem
can be defined as that every piece of knowledge he adds means
that all tuning he has worked on for years is worthless.

If you have a very well tuned engine as fritz OBVIOUSLY is, then
with so little knowledge in its evaluation, the truth/false evaluation
of a pattern is important. Some decisions get taken based upon a
few hundreds of a pawn, or 0.1 whatever.

If you then add good bishop/bad bishop or whatever pattern, this
means that it will play strategically completely different as you
tuned for it for years.

So it's pretty impossible for him to change a lot on the evaluation,
without needing another 2 years of tuning,
whereas the many knowledge (and tuning bugs!) in diep makes this a lot
simpler.

But i don't doubt Frans is preparing *something* to face Kramnik.

He better do that :)

Vincent



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