Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:41:48 06/22/01
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On June 22, 2001 at 17:57:21, Chris Duggan wrote: >From his finger-notes... can anyone fill in the details?! Here is what I know, both from prior events and a long phone call from Roman this morning. This apparently started when an IM (insight) complained that it was unfair that Roman could play crafty (Scrappy) with 5 7 time controls, but he could not. I was watching Roman play some games earlier this week and heard some of insight's "whispers" to this affect. I asked him "why can't I have my program play any opponent at any time control I want?" I got no answer and he instantly disconnected. Apparently after some discussion(s), POTZY took JRLOK out of "help record" as the highest human blitz rating ever on ICC. And unilaterally came up with a rule "to hold this record you must play at least 1/2 of your last 50 games vs a human" or something like that. After a lot of very unhappy ICC members got into a brawl with multiple admins over this, Danny Sleator apparently restored things to "as they were". I don't believe Roman will play on ICC again, until the "supposed sale of ICC" is finalized (no, I don't know anything but rumors about this). However, if you see a "guest" playing scrappy at odd time controls, you can guess who it is. :) I pointed out to sleator that insight's complaint was nonsense for several reasons. (1) Other players can use any time control they want. ADOLF (IM Brian Hartman) knows "the password" and has played all sorts of time controls vs Crafty over the years. GM Bill Lombardy used to play 5 12 / 5 14 games vs Crafty all the time. UDAV also has the password although he still prefers 5 0 and 5 3 (he has used it to make it offer a draw or resign a few times when it was obviously drawn or lost but the game was going on for a long time). I also pointed out that "insight" could feel free to play 10 10 type time controls vs Scrappy as it will happily play that time control all day long vs an IM. Of course, he was interested in blitz rating points, not in chess. I further pointed out that Roman was directly helping me and only played 5 7 when I asked him to play games that were a bit slower to eliminate some of the tactical skirmishes that hid positional weaknesses. What will happen next is anyone's guess... I think it was much ado about nothing but nonsense. I don't see any mandate to play anybody at any time control. ICC has noplay lists, censor lists, and all sorts of things that tend to screw up the rating system already (K=32 is also bad, but that is another story). Insight only seems to play computers also, so he would fit the very type of abuse he was complaining about, I would think... This has caused quite a "bulge" in my ICC "message" list. Everyone seems to like "jrlok" and thinks this was garbage. He has also received a _bunch_ of messages along the same lines. The admins got bombed with them last night as well... Just another day on the chess server. ICC members have always liked Roman. A couple of the admins can't stand him. That has caused trouble more than once in the past... > >Information about JRLOK(GM) (Last disconnected Fri Jun 22 2001 15:23): > > rating [need] win loss draw total best >Loser's 1897 [6] 0 2 0 2 >Bullet 2450 605 467 81 1153 2839 (23-Oct-2000) >Blitz 3451 293 491 430 1214 3451 (20-Jun-2001) >Standard 2643 14 5 7 26 2656 (13-Jun-2001) > > 1: I knew that admins will find a way to dicredit my rating. I understand it >was bothering them a lot. I know they hated seeing me having high rating > 2: they invented new rule!!! And.............they aplied it retroactively. They >desrve the compliments for creativity!!! Although fact of them hating me helped >a lot!!! > 3: I really feel the misery they went through and feel sorry for them > 4: I am sure admins will read this note.....I have some good and some bad news >for you.. > 5: good news for admins , that I will never play on your server when you guys >don't have a clue what you are doing, and the news..is that I will make public >discussion matter. > 6: Admins did great job discouraging me from playing on this server > 7: new rule I was talking about was that you must play equal # of games against >humans and computers. They put it in help records file and took record away from >me > 8: I know exactly why it was done , but than they got some unpleasant responds >and had to change it back.. Poor admins
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