Author: Mogens Larsen
Date: 05:09:04 06/23/01
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On June 23, 2001 at 06:34:43, Bruce Moreland wrote: >If people want to say that computers cheat or whatever, who cares. There's no >way around this, and that's the intent of people who say this. Fine, computers >cheat, because they can't grab a piece with their fingers, compose a sonnet, be >emotionally touched by a baby's smile, or go potty. Stipulated. I don't care. > >I think blind people cheat, too. Blind people shouldn't be allowed to play >chess unless they move the pieces themselves, and the touch move rule still >applies. And since they can't see the board, and they can't touch the pieces, >they have to figure out where their opponent moved by *sound* and *smell*. If >they can't do this, tough luck, because lord knows that the game of chess is >completely destroyed unless you reach out and touch the piece with your own >fingers. > >By the way, there are FIDE rules for blind people, and the computers play by >them. A blind person can have a person there who helps them move pieces, and >tells them where things have been moved. That is what you might call the cheapo defence. Of course there's no real problem with computers being unable to move pieces around. The real issue is external aids like opening books and endgame tables. It's cheating according to FIDE rules no matter how you look at it. And also with my understanding of computer chess. Computer chess is a program capable of calculating chess moves from start to finish period. That may be a naive and silly layman's definition, but I think it makes intuitive sense. So Tapio is essentially right. Does that mean that output can't be stored and that external files are forbidden? No, it doesn't mean that. A learning chess program makes perfect sense compared to the human conception of chess. My imagination may not be that extensive, but I can imagine a program learning opening moves, positional patterns and piece values through experience. That already exists AFAIK. So why cheat? And let's avoid the "You can't check it anyway , so it's mute.." argument. Mogens.
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