Author: Chris Carson
Date: 07:04:35 06/23/01
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On June 23, 2001 at 04:30:15, Christophe Theron wrote: >On June 22, 2001 at 19:57:56, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On June 22, 2001 at 19:03:11, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>On June 22, 2001 at 13:16:10, derrick gatewood wrote: >>> >>>>I am not talking about little things that amount to almost no change in playing >>>>strength. I am talking about techniques or different algorithms that make the >>>>program many times faster or make it 100+ points stronger by implementing one >>>>thing. I am only talking about software, not hardware breakthroughs too. >>>>Thanks for your time. >>>According to the SSDF list my own creature Chess Tiger has improved by 74 elo >>>points in approx. 18 months. That's the difference in rating between Gambit >>>Tiger 2.0 and Chess Tiger 12.0 (with some uncertainty though). >>> >>>I would not call this a breakthrough, but chess programs are improving, little >>>by little. >>> >>>I don't expect any breakthrough in the future, but one thing for sure: last >>>year's programs are outdated, and it repeats over and over every year. >> >>Not sure why hardware "doesn't count" anyway. >> >>But consider: >> >>Suppose you get 50 ELO per year from hardware. A very reasonable supposition. >>Suppose you get 50 ELO per year from software. A very reasonable supposition. >> >>Hardly revolutionary. But in one year those two small advances would change >>[for instance] a 2400 IM to a 2500 GM if a human could do it. >> >>And in ten years? **shudder** > > > >I'm not sure I can improve my program by 50 elo per year for ten years in a row. >:) > > > > Christophe We expect just that Christope. Just kidding. :) 10 points/year for SW improvement is possible with lots of hard work. 20 points is a big accomplishment. 50 points or more in just SW is a real big improvement, the type that forces some change in how your peers see your program (I am of course only talking about SW improvement, not a new book or improved personality settings, ..., although those are impressive also). :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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