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Subject: Re: Testposition - Endgame

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 01:31:11 06/24/01

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On June 24, 2001 at 03:40:46, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]8/6kP/8/3b1PK1/8/6N1/8/8 w - - 0 1
>
>  In this position white wins with 1.Nh5+. If black takes
>  the h7-pawn then the black bishop goes to heaven.
>
>  When trying this position with Gambit Tiger, I got some
>  strange output. In analyse mode it likes 1.h8B with a draw.
>  Very puzzling indeed.
>
>
>Analyse by Gambit Tiger 2.0
>
>00:00:00.3	2,98	12	96204	Nh5+ Kh8 Nf6 Bb3 Kf4 Kg7 Kg4 Bc4 Kg5 Bf7 Kh4 Bc4
>00:00:00.0	3,08	12	110478	Nh5+ Kh8 Nf6 Bb3 Kf4 Kg7 Ke5 Bc2 Ke6 Bd1 Kd6 Bb3 Kc7
>00:00:01.2	2,18	13	359519	Nh5+
>00:00:02.1	1,56	14	620558	Nh5+ Kh8 Nf6 Bb3 Ng8 Kxh7 Ne7 Kg7 f6+ Kf8 Nf5 Be6 Nd4
>Bg8 Kf5 Ke8
>00:00:04.6	1,69	14	1174926	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nc3 Kg6 Ne2
>Kf5 Nd4+ Ke5 Nc2
>00:00:04.8	1,69	15	1388715	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nc3 Kg6 Ne2
>Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Nc6 Kf5
>00:00:06.5	1,69	16	1885192	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nc3 Kg6 Ne2
>Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Nc6 Kf5 Nd8
>00:00:09.4	1,71	17	2770718	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nc3 Kg6 Nd1
>Kf5 Ne3+ Kf4 Kf8 Be6 Nc2
>00:00:13.9	1,71	18	4108035	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nc3 Kg6 Nd1
>Kf5 Ne3+ Kg5 Nc2 Kf5 Nd4+
>00:00:20.5	1,73	19	6698978	h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nd6+ Kg6
>Nb5 Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Ne6 Kf5 Nc5
>00:00:34.9	1,73	20	11655854 h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nd6+ Kg6
>Nb5 Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Nc6 Kf5 Nb8
>00:01:44.2	1,73	21	36549655 h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nd6+ Kg6
>Nb5 Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Nc6 Kf5 Nd8
>00:03:03.0	1,73	22	63301063 h8B+ Kxh8 Kf6 Bg8 Ke7 Kg7 f6+ Kg6 Ne4 Kf5 Nd6+ Kg6
>Nb5 Kf5 Nd4+ Kg6 Nc6 Kf5 Nd8
>
>Sune

Sune,

Here is my analysis - Dual PIII 1,000mhz

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Deep Fritz T29c
8/6kP/8/3b1PK1/8/6N1/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz T29c:

1.Nh5+ Kh8
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8
  +-  (3.03)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (3.34)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf3
  +-  (3.50)   Depth: 3/7   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6
  +-  (3.66)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6 Bc4
  +-  (3.72)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00, tb=1
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6 Bc4 4.Kg6
  +-  (3.75)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:00  1kN, tb=3
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (4.06)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  3kN, tb=7
1.Nh5+! Kh8 2.Kh6 Be6 3.f6 Bg8 4.hxg8Q+
  +-  (4.97)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  4kN, tb=8
1.Nh5+--
  +-  (4.59)   Depth: 8/12   00:00:00  6kN, tb=13
1.Nh5+-- Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kf4 Bc4 4.Ke5 Kg7
  +-  (3.66)   Depth: 8/14   00:00:00  10kN, tb=21
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:00  13kN, tb=42
1.Nh5+! Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Bf7 5.Ng6+ Bxg6 6.Kxg6
  +-  (5.75)   Depth: 9/14   00:00:00  15kN, tb=47
1.Nh5+--
  +-  (5.44)   Depth: 10/14   00:00:00  18kN, tb=75
1.Nh5+-- Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Ng7 Bf7 5.Nf5 Bd5 6.Nd6
  +-  (4.00)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  21kN, tb=83
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (4.31)   Depth: 11/15   00:00:00  27kN, tb=127
1.Nh5+--
  +-  (4.00)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:00  41kN, tb=260
1.Nh5+-- Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Bf7 5.Nd3
  +-  (3.91)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:00  48kN, tb=279
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (4.22)   Depth: 13/16   00:00:00  61kN, tb=391
1.Nh5+! Kf7 2.h8Q
  +-  (#20)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:20  23971kN, tb=8702

(,  24.06.2001)


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Deep Junior 6.0
8/6kP/8/3b1PK1/8/6N1/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 6.0:

1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kg6 Be4 3.Nf4
  +-  (2.80)   Depth: 6   00:00:00, tb=1
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kg6 Bc6 3.Ng7 Be4
  +-  (2.78)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  8kN, tb=8
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Be8 5.Ne6 Bf7 6.Nd4 Bd5
  +-  (2.85)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  31kN, tb=99
1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Bf7 5.Nd3 Bd5 6.Ne5 Be4 7.f7
  +-  (3.06)   Depth: 14   00:00:00  55kN, tb=215
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (3.36)   Depth: 16   00:00:00  84kN, tb=356
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (3.66)   Depth: 18   00:00:00  142kN, tb=664
1.Nh5+!
  +-  (3.96)   Depth: 20   00:00:00  248kN, tb=1320
1.Nh5+! Kxh7
  +-  (#13)   Depth: 20   00:00:11  22029kN, tb=6471
1.Nh5+! Kxh7
  +-  (#13)   Depth: 20   00:00:11  22029kN, tb=6484

(,  24.06.2001)

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Engine: Deep Shredder
by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
position:  0 1
  1.00	 0:00 	+0.01-- 	1.h8Q+ Kxh8 (4) 0.0
  1.00	 0:00 	+0.01 	1.h8Q+ Kxh8 (21) 0.0
  1.00	 0:00 	+2.02++ 	1.h8R Kxh8 (22) 0.0
  1.00	 0:00 	+2.02 	1.h8R Kxh8 (23) 0.0
  1.00	 0:00 	+2.06++ 	1.Nh5+ Kf7 (38) 0.1
  1.00	 0:00 	+3.03++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 (48) 0.1
  1.00	 0:00 	+3.28 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 (57) 0.1
  2.00	 0:00 	+3.50 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kf6 Kxh7 (872) 2.6
  3.00	 0:00 	+3.21-- 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kf6 Kxh7 (998) 3.0
  3.00	 0:00 	+3.21 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kf6 Kxh7 (1.078) 3.2
  4.00	 0:00 	+3.50++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6 Bc4 (1.209) 3.6
  4.00	 0:00 	+3.50 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6 Bc4 (1.224) 3.7
  5.00	 0:00 	+3.50 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kh6 Bc4 (1.251) 3.8
  6.00	 0:00 	+3.24-- 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Kg4 Ba2 4.Kf4 Bb1 (1.871) 5.7
  6.00	 0:00 	+3.28 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Ba8 (2.670) 8.1
  7.01	 0:00 	+3.56++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bd5 4.Nf4 Bc4 (3.340) 10.1
  7.01	 0:00 	+3.56 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bd5 4.Nf4 Bc4 (3.605) 10.9
  8.01	 0:00 	+3.82++ 	1.Nh5+ Kf7 (4.512) 13.7
  8.01	 0:00 	+4.32++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bb7 (5.766) 15.3
  8.01	 0:00 	+5.65 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Be8 5.Ng6+ Bxg6 6.Kxg6
(8.497) 18.7
  9.01	 0:00 	+4.78-- 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bg6 4.Nf4 Be8 5.Ne6 Bd7 (9.778)
18.9
  9.01	 0:00 	+4.28-- 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Ng7 Kxg7 (10.836) 21.0
  9.01	 0:00 	+4.31 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bf3 4.Nf4 Bd5 (11.774) 22.8
 10.01	 0:00 	+5.41++ 	1.Nh5+ Kf8 2.h8Q+ Ke7 (13.391) 25.1
 10.01	 0:00 	+4.84 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bd5 4.Ng3 Bf7 5.Nf5 Ba2 6.Kg6
(16.318) 21.7
 11.01	 0:00 	+4.59-- 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Nf6 Bf7 3.Ne8 (18.779) 21.0
 11.01	 0:01 	+4.30 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bd5 4.Ng3 Bf7 5.Nh5 Ba2 (23.031)
22.6
 12.01	 0:01 	+4.55++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bf3 (26.998) 25.3
 12.01	 0:01 	+5.07++ 	1.Nh5+ Kh8 2.Kh6 Be4 3.f6 Bd5 4.Ng3 Be4 5.f7 Bg2 (33.466)
30.5
 12.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.869.688) 460.2
 13.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.892.523) 462.8
 14.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.927.427) 464.8
 15.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.947.265) 465.7
 16.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.966.707) 467.6
 17.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (2.986.265) 467.2
 18.01	 0:06 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.011.017) 467.6
 19.01	 0:07 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.025.202) 431.1
 20.01	 0:07 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.039.994) 421.1
 21.01	 0:07 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.053.768) 407.9
 22.01	 0:07 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.069.826) 389.8
 23.01	 0:07 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.086.262) 387.2
 24.01	 0:08 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.102.703) 382.5
 25.01	 0:08 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.119.339) 375.9
 26.01	 0:08 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.135.176) 366.8
 27.01	 0:08 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.149.553) 356.7
 28.01	 0:09 	  +M14 	1.Nh5+ Kxh7 (3.164.002) 344.9
best move: Ng3-h5 time: 0:09.203 min  n/s: 343.849  CPU 122.2%  nodes: 3.164.449
 TB: 24.537
pb move: 1...Kxh7


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1 position, 1 computer, 3 programs.  And 3 different evals!

Interesting, eh?


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