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Subject: Re: Gravy for the brain that supports a 2500+ elo standard for computer GM's

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:01:59 06/24/01

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On June 24, 2001 at 06:45:40, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On June 23, 2001 at 22:48:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>This _absolutely_ happens.  In a WC match, after a sealed move/adjourned game,
>>the GMs go to bed, their "seconds" stay up all night analyzing the position,
>>and the next morning they show their GM the analysis on how to win, or draw
>>the position.  The GM commits it to memory and off he goes to the board to
>>play those moves he has _never_ seen before.
>
>You wrote that the GM was shown the analysis. Thereby he or she is aware of the
>general idea with the move. That suggests some kind of inevitable comprehension,
>not just memory alone. There will always (IMO) be a certain degree of
>understanding of the move, not just the isolated move. The degree is arguable of
>course.
>
>Mogens.


Let's go back to DB vs Kasparov match 2, game 6.  Kasparov claims "he mixed up
the move order".  Does that suggest comprehending the opening or does it suggest
simply memorizing a particular set of moves in a particular order?


Suppose a computer took its opening book, played thru each one, did a real
search at every position, then minimaxed the entire thing so that its
evaluations were used to choose from the book lines?  Early Crafty versions
did this.  Cray Blitz did it too.  IE they didn't just blindly follow the
book moves, they actively participated.

Or in the current case of crafty, with book random 0, it does a search over the
set of known book moves and plays the one _it_ thinks is best, not the one that
is most popular or whatever.




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