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Subject: Re: What is:Kramnik really saying about Fritz's strength? - GM level??

Author: Mark Young

Date: 10:08:35 06/24/01

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On June 24, 2001 at 03:25:13, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 24, 2001 at 00:33:34, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2001 at 10:58:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2001 at 09:36:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>chessbase could get good PR out of this by focussing on the fact that
>>>>deepfritz will search way deeper as deep blue did!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not a single chance in hell this would happen.
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>yes,  you are, as always, 100% correct.
>>
>>I really do not understand how people can think a chess program which can play
>>about 2200 in close positions and 2600 in open positions (extimated ratings)
>>against one of the strongest player of the World can have any chance expecially
>>since the human player will know exactly what the opponent will play. This would
>>bring down the strenght of the program of at least another 200 points!
>
>Fritz is better than 2600 in open positions and 2200 in closed position.
>
>2900 in open positions and 2500 in closed position seems to be more realistic.

Interesting, I don't know if you are right are wrong with these numbers. Could
you explain your reasoning behind them in more detail?

>
>A computer with rating of 2600 in open positions and 2200 in closed position
>could not get performance of more than 2400 against humans even if the humans do
>no special preperation and old Fritz got prerformance of more than 2400 in the
>israeli league on hardware that is clearly slower than the hardware against
>kramnik even after part of the humans did special preperation.
>
>>
>>So how can one expect a 2200 player to win against a 2700 (about) one?
>>
>>The best chances for a program to get and advanted against such a strong player
>>are to be able to surprise him in the opening phase, but how the match is set it
>>will be the opposite
>
>I do not believe that Kramnik is going to get the opening book of Deep Fritz
>before the match.
>
>Uri



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