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Subject: Re: Qualifier.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:29:08 06/25/01

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On June 25, 2001 at 08:44:09, Slater Wold wrote:

>On June 25, 2001 at 00:22:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2001 at 23:06:09, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>I am holding a qualifing match between ALL the top programs.  The time control
>>>will be 25/10 and it will be a 3 cycle Round Robin.
>>>
>>>The purpose of this tournament is to qualify an engine to go against several
>>>2500+ GM's in the next 5-6 months.  These games will also be played at 25/10.
>>>
>>>Each game will be played on a Dual Pentium III 1,000Mhz ~ 184MB hash.  Pondering
>>>will be on, and the default book will be used, at tournament levels.
>>
>>
>>One question:  what is the point of playing computers against each other, to
>>choose one to play against a human?  Isn't this like playing 9 holes of golf
>>to choose the challenger for the world champion in the shot put?
>>
>
>I think that is a bad analagy.  You make a lot of them, but this might be your
>worst yet.  I think a better analagy would be, playing 18 holes of put-put golf,
>to qualify for Pebble Beach.



It wasn't nearly so bad an analogy as the "qualifier" is a bad qualifier.




>
>The honest truth is, that I want to have several big games against GM's in the
>coming months, and I am unsure what the best engine would be.  So I decided to
>take an easy approach.  Play the games like I would be playing against the GM's,
>and whoever won, would play.


Flip a coin.  Your result will be just as accurate.  If you want to find the
best program to play against a human, then you should play all the programs
against the same pool of humans and see which produces the best result.  Any
other experiment is badly flawed.




>
>The point of the qualifying match is only to get a contender, nothing else.


save time.  flip a coin.



>
>
>Slate
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Engines participating will be:
>>>
>>>Chess Tiger 14.0
>>>Deep Fritz
>>>Gambit Tiger 2.0
>>>Hiarcs 7.32
>>>Junior 6.0
>>>Nimzo 8
>>>Shredder 5
>>>Crafty 18.10
>>>
>>>If Shredder, Junior, or Crafty win, the SMP versions will be used against the
>>>GMs.
>>>
>>>As the games are played, I will post them.  Probably on a website.
>>>
>>>Each engine will be given a deafult ELO of 2400.  This is only so we can have a
>>>relative average of performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>Slate



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