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Subject: Re: Qualifier.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:31:54 06/25/01

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On June 25, 2001 at 06:03:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 25, 2001 at 00:22:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2001 at 23:06:09, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>I am holding a qualifing match between ALL the top programs.  The time control
>>>will be 25/10 and it will be a 3 cycle Round Robin.
>>>
>>>The purpose of this tournament is to qualify an engine to go against several
>>>2500+ GM's in the next 5-6 months.  These games will also be played at 25/10.
>>>
>>>Each game will be played on a Dual Pentium III 1,000Mhz ~ 184MB hash.  Pondering
>>>will be on, and the default book will be used, at tournament levels.
>>
>>
>>One question:  what is the point of playing computers against each other, to
>>choose one to play against a human?  Isn't this like playing 9 holes of golf
>>to choose the challenger for the world champion in the shot put?
>
>In most of the cases the better program against computers is also better against
>humans.


That simply isn't true.  Period.  You only have to visit ICC and watch a
few games to see that this doesn't work.



>
>I do not know about one top program against computers that is weaker than 2200
>against humans when there are a lot of amateurs against computers that are also
>weaker than 2200 against humans.


I didn't give a "2200 rating" anywhere.  I simply said that playing a bunch
of computers against each other will _not_ find out which one is best suited
to play against humans.  Period.  Nothing more, nothing less...





>
>I do not know about one top program against humans who has less than 2200 ssdf
>rating.
>

I don't see what this has to do with the question at hand.


>(I say 2200 only to be careful and I could say a bigger number)
>
>Saying that we can learn nothing from the results against computers about the
>results against humans is wrong.
>
>Uri



No it isn't.  It is clearly based on observable fact...



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