Author: Albert Silver
Date: 13:28:12 06/25/01
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On June 25, 2001 at 15:06:45, Mark Young wrote:
>On June 25, 2001 at 14:05:58, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On June 24, 2001 at 15:24:53, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On June 24, 2001 at 15:02:54, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 24, 2001 at 14:53:04, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 24, 2001 at 14:27:12, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok, but the computers are very good against chess players up to 2500 Elo, so
>>>>>>this may give the impression they play about 2600 as an average.
>>>>>>Against stronger opponents (2650 and above) they would score less.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deep Junior scored 2702 against opponents with average rating of 2702 at
>>>>>Dortmund 200. So they can score more. :)
>>>>
>>>>I find it funny people will give opinions, and that is fine, but I sometimes
>>>>wonder what the opinion is based on... can't be the computer's game record. :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>Chris Carson
>>>
>>>Mark,
>>>
>>>You will find this very funny. Here are the results for all programs and all
>>>games 40/2 against average opponents 2648 and above. :)
>>>
>>>Prog Avg Opp Avg Total Lowest Opp Highest Opp
>>>ELO FIDE ELO Games Fide FIDE
>>>2632 2645 30 2566 2795
>>>2653 2671 22 2600 2795
>>>2650 2730 10 2650 2795
>>>
>>>Plus the DJ Dortmund 2000 performance 2702 vs 2702 FIDE over 9 games.
>>
>>Disregarding Dortmund (super performance) and the Dutch championship, my problem
>>with the above is that these total games are done over quite some period of
>>time, a game or two at a time, and on variable hardware and conditions. To
>>qualify for a Fide rating, one cannot just accumulate 9 games with one here, two
>>there, another here, etc. It has to be done with groups of at least 4 games from
>>a single event.
>
>As pointed out many times, no one is talking about earning the Fide title of
>GM...this is calculating the computers strength vs human GM's.
That's my whole point. My Fide rating cannot be acquired as a result of a game
here and a game there. This isn't a question of titles, but merely the correct
Elo relative to my playing ability. Why do you think Fide won't consider 5
groups of 2 games against Fide rated players (10 games) in order to give me a
first rating? It can ONLY be done with groups of at least 4 games from a same
event. This isn't done for the sole purpose of adding complications.
Albert
>>
>>
>>>
>>>The performance goes up, not down due to improvemets in SW and HW over the last
>>>3 years. Pretty stiff competition. :)
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Chris Carson
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