Author: Chris Carson
Date: 14:48:40 06/25/01
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On June 25, 2001 at 17:01:56, Albert Silver wrote: >I didn't say to disregard the result of Dortmund, but to disregard Dortmund >concerning the complaint I was making. In other words, regard it! :-) I realize >we must do with what we have, but if we are going to flash results and >statistics, then all the provisos regarding those results and statistics must be >considered and declared. In other words, show the results, but be honest about >the limitations or possible problems. Yes, Junior performed brilliantly, and >*perhaps* this represents its true strength, but unfortunately it is only one >tournament. Karpov had an absolute field day in Linares 1994 (I think it was 94) >but did this really represent his relative playing strength against the other >players? Yes, we have data, but it is a couple of tournaments, for two different >programs, and a collection of single games here and there. It's still a far cry >from nothing, but it's also a far cry from being conclusive. With all due >respect. Here's another tidbit: you'll sometimes read about some top board >performer in league play. Such as Christiansen did a couple of times in the >Budesliga with scores on the order of 12/13, etc. With such a result does this >mean he is a WC contender? Unfortunately not. It's a fantastic result but it is >very different from playing a tournament. Perhaps Junior wouldn't be any >different, but what about the players it played and the circumstances? > > Albert Albert, Where is the data that supports your position that programs are not 2600? At least I present data when asked. I am entitled to my opinion also. I did present the data and I did state the qualifiers. I hope you will bring data (a couple of hundred games) when you argue your point, the same as I have and the meeting the same requirements you have stated. All I see is your opinion, you are entitled to it as I am entitled to mine. Please support your opinon with the same criteria based data you demand from others. I never ever said FIDE rating. I presented the data that is available, I did the calculations and put some effort into this. It is easy to critize. I admit when I make a mistake, please do not represent me as trying to hide something or tyring to lie or trying to do something else unethical, I am honest and I do not appreciate you implying "dishonest". I also do not say to the person, that looks dishonest, instead offer my opinon with data to back it up, or I state that I have no basis, just a gut feeling. If you really think I am a "dishonest", lying, decieving, person who has some deep dark reason for "wanting" programs to be "2600" and fabricating all the results, then just attach a single line message to all my posts saying that. At least then I know where you stand and will leave you out of future debates with me. Chris Carson
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