Author: Chris Carson
Date: 14:58:25 06/25/01
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On June 25, 2001 at 17:45:32, Sune Larsson wrote: >On June 25, 2001 at 17:30:13, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On June 25, 2001 at 17:21:56, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On June 25, 2001 at 15:42:39, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>It should be noted that FIDE sets everyones rating to 2000 for the first event. >>>> >>>>I am looking fot the "this type of position" that at 40/2 on 1Ghz machine or >>>>faster makes Fritz, Junior, Shredder, Rebel, or Tiger play like a 2100 or lower >>>>rated player. >>>> >>>>The "this type of position" must be a positon that leads to multiple wins for >>>>the player. A single win will not work since program learning will avoid it the >>>>next time. If the "this type of position" exists, the most of us (even me) >>>>should be able to beat the programs 50% or more over a stretch of games, say 20. >>>> We might even be able to get a string of wins going (like 5 or 6 in a row) once >>>>we have mastered the "this type of position". >>>> >>>>I am really serious about this. I do not know of any "this type of position" >>>>and I have looked for a long time now. Also most programmers and players would >>>>benefit from this knowledge. >>>> >>>>Blitz strategy does not count, only 40/2. >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>>Best Regards, >>>>Chris Carson >>> >>> Got a couple of wins vs different CM8-GM personalities with this >>> wellknown setup as black. Don't play it anymore. Repetition is boring. >>> >>> [D]r2q1rk1/pppnn1b1/3p2pp/3Pp3/2P1Pp2/2N3PP/PP1BQPB1/R4RK1 w - - 0 15 >>> >>> I'll mail you a few games, though they were played in 40/40. >>> >>> Sune >> >>Thanks, I am only looking for 40/2 and for the programs I mentioned. CM does >>not have learning does it? >> >>I will save the position for analysis and any others you send me, not sure how >>they will turn out. :) >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson > > The KI attack with black pawns on d6,e5,f4,g5 and rolling, causes big > problems for most programs. The theme is displayed in the three different > games I just sent to you. The plan for black is here more important than > the exact move order. White has to attack very actively on the queenside > and at the same time defend the kingside. Programs usually can't manage that. > > Sune Yes, the KIA is something I have success with, draws mostly. Rebel and Fritz adapt quickly to it and my their performance goes back to normal after say 5 games, unless I reset to default and just play what I have learned (they get no learning that way). ;) A 2100 player can not keep up with the programs using the KIA in my experience. Same with the Stonewall and other Dutch variations. I have also tried French and French in reverse, also English and different Indians. Programs adapt to quickly and after a couple of games leave me in the dust. If it takes a 2400 player to maintain the advantage, then that is beyond my capabilities and other 2100 players. :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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