Author: Josh Strayhorn
Date: 23:04:46 06/25/01
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On June 25, 2001 at 15:42:39, Chris Carson wrote: >It should be noted that FIDE sets everyones rating to 2000 for the first event. > >I am looking fot the "this type of position" that at 40/2 on 1Ghz machine or >faster makes Fritz, Junior, Shredder, Rebel, or Tiger play like a 2100 or lower >rated player. > >The "this type of position" must be a positon that leads to multiple wins for >the player. A single win will not work since program learning will avoid it the >next time. If the "this type of position" exists, the most of us (even me) >should be able to beat the programs 50% or more over a stretch of games, say 20. > We might even be able to get a string of wins going (like 5 or 6 in a row) once >we have mastered the "this type of position". > >I am really serious about this. I do not know of any "this type of position" >and I have looked for a long time now. Also most programmers and players would >benefit from this knowledge. > >Blitz strategy does not count, only 40/2. > The 2000 rating is only for the purposes of the tournament rating average, used to determine the rating change of the other participants. It doesn't imply that the average player is 2000, which seems to be what you are suggesting. Statistically speaking, even if there is a position in which computers perform at 2100, it will still take a 2100 player to score 50% or better over an extended match. A 1600 player has very nearly the same expected result against a 2100 player as he does against a GM - about 1%. In other words, I think you are expecting too much in asking for a position which will allow "most of us" to score better than 50%. To do that, the position would have to be such that the programs performed near 1600.
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