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Subject: Re: Someone Better Stop Tiger or This GM Debate is Going to be over Quick!

Author: Martin Schubert

Date: 02:21:27 06/26/01

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On June 26, 2001 at 05:15:56, Mark Young wrote:

>On June 26, 2001 at 05:06:36, Martin Schubert wrote:
>
>>On June 26, 2001 at 04:53:05, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>ChessTiger has now produced 2 wins in a row and a draw against strong titled IM
>>>players. It must be noted ChessTiger is doing this on hardware that is not
>>>considered ultra fast PIII 866 256 MB Ram. Most people own hardware this good or
>>>better. This is not a chess program running on thousands of dollars with of
>>>equipment with 8 CPUs.
>>>
>>>If ChessTiger continues playing as well as it is, the 2100 elo crowd or the No
>>>way computers are GM crowd will have to come up with someway to explain this
>>>performance. As I doubt it will change anyone’s mind even if ChessTiger wins
>>>this tournament.
>>
>>The performance is easy to explain. Like in the tournaments last year with the
>>participation of Fritz and Junior a lot of players don't know how to play
>>against computers. There are some games which could be played by players with
>>rating <2000 as well.
>
>I don’t think this that arguments passes the laugh test, most players’ trainee
>with some kind of computer aid, chess bases, programs etc. They have too, to
>compete in today’s chess tournaments. Programs have been around for many years,
>and I would doubt this is any players first time seeing a chess computer.

Playing against computers and playing against humans are two different
disciplines. Maybe like 100meter and 400meter hurdles. If you practise mainly
for one discipline you're not that good in the other one.
Maybe you can take a look at Eduard Nemeth's games. He has no problem beating
all of the programs. His rating is maybe 2100. After reading his articles I
could beat Shredder 5 without much effort (my rating about 1900).
Just look about the game Tiger played in round 3. You want to tell me that his
opposite played like 2400? Like an IM? I think already the opening was a
disaster.



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