Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:30:21 06/26/01
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On June 26, 2001 at 05:21:27, Martin Schubert wrote: >On June 26, 2001 at 05:15:56, Mark Young wrote: > >>On June 26, 2001 at 05:06:36, Martin Schubert wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2001 at 04:53:05, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>ChessTiger has now produced 2 wins in a row and a draw against strong titled IM >>>>players. It must be noted ChessTiger is doing this on hardware that is not >>>>considered ultra fast PIII 866 256 MB Ram. Most people own hardware this good or >>>>better. This is not a chess program running on thousands of dollars with of >>>>equipment with 8 CPUs. >>>> >>>>If ChessTiger continues playing as well as it is, the 2100 elo crowd or the No >>>>way computers are GM crowd will have to come up with someway to explain this >>>>performance. As I doubt it will change anyone’s mind even if ChessTiger wins >>>>this tournament. >>> >>>The performance is easy to explain. Like in the tournaments last year with the >>>participation of Fritz and Junior a lot of players don't know how to play >>>against computers. There are some games which could be played by players with >>>rating <2000 as well. >> >>I don’t think this that arguments passes the laugh test, most players’ trainee >>with some kind of computer aid, chess bases, programs etc. They have too, to >>compete in today’s chess tournaments. Programs have been around for many years, >>and I would doubt this is any players first time seeing a chess computer. > >Playing against computers and playing against humans are two different >disciplines. Maybe like 100meter and 400meter hurdles. If you practise mainly >for one discipline you're not that good in the other one. >Maybe you can take a look at Eduard Nemeth's games. He has no problem beating >all of the programs. His rating is maybe 2100. After reading his articles I >could beat Shredder 5 without much effort (my rating about 1900). I am sure he also lose against the programs and not only wins but he does not post games when he lost because of tactical errors. >Just look about the game Tiger played in round 3. You want to tell me that his >opposite played like 2400? Like an IM? I think already the opening was a >disaster. I am not sure if the opening was a disaster. The evaluation of the program was close to 0.00 after the opening. Chesstiger even evaluated the position as 0.30 against itself after 24 moves. Uri
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