Author: Mark Young
Date: 03:02:34 06/26/01
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On June 26, 2001 at 05:58:52, Martin Schubert wrote: >On June 26, 2001 at 05:39:52, Mark Young wrote: > >>On June 26, 2001 at 05:21:27, Martin Schubert wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2001 at 05:15:56, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>On June 26, 2001 at 05:06:36, Martin Schubert wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 26, 2001 at 04:53:05, Mark Young wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>ChessTiger has now produced 2 wins in a row and a draw against strong titled IM >>>>>>players. It must be noted ChessTiger is doing this on hardware that is not >>>>>>considered ultra fast PIII 866 256 MB Ram. Most people own hardware this good or >>>>>>better. This is not a chess program running on thousands of dollars with of >>>>>>equipment with 8 CPUs. >>>>>> >>>>>>If ChessTiger continues playing as well as it is, the 2100 elo crowd or the No >>>>>>way computers are GM crowd will have to come up with someway to explain this >>>>>>performance. As I doubt it will change anyone’s mind even if ChessTiger wins >>>>>>this tournament. >>>>> >>>>>The performance is easy to explain. Like in the tournaments last year with the >>>>>participation of Fritz and Junior a lot of players don't know how to play >>>>>against computers. There are some games which could be played by players with >>>>>rating <2000 as well. >>>> >>>>I don’t think this that arguments passes the laugh test, most players’ trainee >>>>with some kind of computer aid, chess bases, programs etc. They have too, to >>>>compete in today’s chess tournaments. Programs have been around for many years, >>>>and I would doubt this is any players first time seeing a chess computer. >>> >>>Playing against computers and playing against humans are two different >>>disciplines. Maybe like 100meter and 400meter hurdles. If you practise mainly >>>for one discipline you're not that good in the other one. >>>Maybe you can take a look at Eduard Nemeth's games. He has no problem beating >>>all of the programs. His rating is maybe 2100. After reading his articles I >>>could beat Shredder 5 without much effort (my rating about 1900). >>>Just look about the game Tiger played in round 3. You want to tell me that his >>>opposite played like 2400? Like an IM? I think already the opening was a >>>disaster. >> >>Give us some analysis since you have looked at the game to back up your >>argument. >> >>I will take that challenge that you can beat a top chess program. And we will >>make it a short 10 game match at blitz time controls or any time controls you >>want. I have many years playing programs online, and you will find my opening >>book does not have many holes in it like 2 Na3. So you will need to outplay it, >>in the middle and endgame to win. > >I didn't say that I'm experienced enough to beat a program in match. But it's a >matter of training. I'm not interested in that. >But ask Eduard Nemeth. I'm sure he can beat a top chess program in a 10 game >match. Sorry I just took you at your word: "After reading his articles I could beat Shredder 5 without much effort (my rating about 1900)." BTW Where is the analysis to back up your aguments about how poor the IM played!
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